▲ 198 ▼ LG Electronics unveils 2026 Gram Laptop line with aerospace composite - up to 50% lighter than macbooks (biz.chosun.com) submitted 7 months ago by drmoose@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 108 comments fedilink hide all child comments Weight Comparison Model Weight (grams) Screen Size LG Gram Pro 16 (2026) 1,199 16-inch MacBook Air 15 (M4/M3) 1,510 15-inch MacBook Pro 14 (M5/M3) 1,550-1,600 14-inch MacBook Pro 16 (M3+) 2,140-2,200 16-inch
[–] embed_me@programming.dev 13 points 7 months ago (4 children) The question is does it run as silent as apple laptops? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Krompus@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 child) Silence, at least under light load, is honestly such a nice feature. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I bought my desktop at an auction for a self-driving car startup that was shutting down. Amazing specs, great price. It had two RTX 2080 Ti cards in there. Loudest GPU fan I've ever heard in my life. All the other fans in the computer are Noctua but I guess the Ti cards are strictly optimized for performance and not necessarily gaming. I got some nice speakers that are color-coordinated with the desktop but when I'm doing some serious gaming I have to use noise-cancelling headphones to tune out the sound of the GPU fan. Might get a different GPU at some point but it's out of my fun budget right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Do you have any use case for dual cards? Might trade them in for one newer, more efficient card. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago Not at all, I sold one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago hated my 3060 ti because of the ridiculously loud fans. the lowest speed for the fans was 1600 rpm and at that speed it howled like a wolf. it would frequently turn them on even when idle as the temps went above 55. very happy with my new sapphire 9070 xt, it stays perfectly silent no matter what i throw at it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 months ago The question is can I run Linux on it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ignirtoq@feddit.online 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Personally I'm fine with them taking the noise levels from the aerospace industry, too. My primary concern is how's the battery life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* well more noise usually goes hand in hand with worse battery life. permalink fedilink source parent [+] drmoose@lemmy.world [S] -7 points 7 months ago (1 child) Most non-gaming laptops since 2010 don't really make noticeable noise permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) no, even in 2020 Intel Macs were noisy compared to apple silicon Macs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arin@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (2 children) How can fanless intel macbook air make noise? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) They had fans in the Pro, nobody mentioned the Air specifically in this thread. The Air at that time had a crappy Y series Intel CPU in order to go fanless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (1 child) intel airs did have fans anyway. when they switched to apple silicon they removed the fans. The 12” macbook (not air or pro) was fanless but it was a severely gimped CPU and had major issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Ah okay I assumed that since the last Intel Airs used the same shitty Y series Intel CPUs they were also fanless. Now that I'm thinking though - those Airs were the ones that had fans that never really blew at the heatsink permalink fedilink source parent [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Only the MacBook 12 was fanless from the Intel era, but I’m not too sure about that. Airs were never fanless while being Intel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) and that thing was a disaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago Unfortunately, yes. I’m looking for a compact laptop, a typing machine of a kind, I’d use for typing texts in nvim. So I don’t care how slow it is, but I’d like it to be thin and light, with USB C adapter for charger. Even the battery life is not something I need to be high, all I care for it to handle a single writing session, of an hour or two. Ideally, I’d prefer the laptop to be cheap, I don’t need a typing machine for a grand. This laptop could be perfect for the task, yet it’s a disaster. So far, one of the best laptops I could find is a used MacBook Air 11, can get one for €50 to €100 these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Krompus@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 child) Silence, at least under light load, is honestly such a nice feature. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I bought my desktop at an auction for a self-driving car startup that was shutting down. Amazing specs, great price. It had two RTX 2080 Ti cards in there. Loudest GPU fan I've ever heard in my life. All the other fans in the computer are Noctua but I guess the Ti cards are strictly optimized for performance and not necessarily gaming. I got some nice speakers that are color-coordinated with the desktop but when I'm doing some serious gaming I have to use noise-cancelling headphones to tune out the sound of the GPU fan. Might get a different GPU at some point but it's out of my fun budget right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Do you have any use case for dual cards? Might trade them in for one newer, more efficient card. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago Not at all, I sold one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago hated my 3060 ti because of the ridiculously loud fans. the lowest speed for the fans was 1600 rpm and at that speed it howled like a wolf. it would frequently turn them on even when idle as the temps went above 55. very happy with my new sapphire 9070 xt, it stays perfectly silent no matter what i throw at it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I bought my desktop at an auction for a self-driving car startup that was shutting down. Amazing specs, great price. It had two RTX 2080 Ti cards in there. Loudest GPU fan I've ever heard in my life. All the other fans in the computer are Noctua but I guess the Ti cards are strictly optimized for performance and not necessarily gaming. I got some nice speakers that are color-coordinated with the desktop but when I'm doing some serious gaming I have to use noise-cancelling headphones to tune out the sound of the GPU fan. Might get a different GPU at some point but it's out of my fun budget right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Do you have any use case for dual cards? Might trade them in for one newer, more efficient card. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago Not at all, I sold one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago hated my 3060 ti because of the ridiculously loud fans. the lowest speed for the fans was 1600 rpm and at that speed it howled like a wolf. it would frequently turn them on even when idle as the temps went above 55. very happy with my new sapphire 9070 xt, it stays perfectly silent no matter what i throw at it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Do you have any use case for dual cards? Might trade them in for one newer, more efficient card. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago Not at all, I sold one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago Not at all, I sold one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago hated my 3060 ti because of the ridiculously loud fans. the lowest speed for the fans was 1600 rpm and at that speed it howled like a wolf. it would frequently turn them on even when idle as the temps went above 55. very happy with my new sapphire 9070 xt, it stays perfectly silent no matter what i throw at it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 months ago The question is can I run Linux on it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ignirtoq@feddit.online 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Personally I'm fine with them taking the noise levels from the aerospace industry, too. My primary concern is how's the battery life? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* well more noise usually goes hand in hand with worse battery life. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* well more noise usually goes hand in hand with worse battery life. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] drmoose@lemmy.world [S] -7 points 7 months ago (1 child) Most non-gaming laptops since 2010 don't really make noticeable noise permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) no, even in 2020 Intel Macs were noisy compared to apple silicon Macs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arin@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (2 children) How can fanless intel macbook air make noise? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) They had fans in the Pro, nobody mentioned the Air specifically in this thread. The Air at that time had a crappy Y series Intel CPU in order to go fanless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (1 child) intel airs did have fans anyway. when they switched to apple silicon they removed the fans. The 12” macbook (not air or pro) was fanless but it was a severely gimped CPU and had major issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Ah okay I assumed that since the last Intel Airs used the same shitty Y series Intel CPUs they were also fanless. Now that I'm thinking though - those Airs were the ones that had fans that never really blew at the heatsink permalink fedilink source parent [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Only the MacBook 12 was fanless from the Intel era, but I’m not too sure about that. Airs were never fanless while being Intel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) and that thing was a disaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago Unfortunately, yes. I’m looking for a compact laptop, a typing machine of a kind, I’d use for typing texts in nvim. So I don’t care how slow it is, but I’d like it to be thin and light, with USB C adapter for charger. Even the battery life is not something I need to be high, all I care for it to handle a single writing session, of an hour or two. Ideally, I’d prefer the laptop to be cheap, I don’t need a typing machine for a grand. This laptop could be perfect for the task, yet it’s a disaster. So far, one of the best laptops I could find is a used MacBook Air 11, can get one for €50 to €100 these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) no, even in 2020 Intel Macs were noisy compared to apple silicon Macs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arin@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (2 children) How can fanless intel macbook air make noise? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) They had fans in the Pro, nobody mentioned the Air specifically in this thread. The Air at that time had a crappy Y series Intel CPU in order to go fanless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (1 child) intel airs did have fans anyway. when they switched to apple silicon they removed the fans. The 12” macbook (not air or pro) was fanless but it was a severely gimped CPU and had major issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Ah okay I assumed that since the last Intel Airs used the same shitty Y series Intel CPUs they were also fanless. Now that I'm thinking though - those Airs were the ones that had fans that never really blew at the heatsink permalink fedilink source parent [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Only the MacBook 12 was fanless from the Intel era, but I’m not too sure about that. Airs were never fanless while being Intel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) and that thing was a disaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago Unfortunately, yes. I’m looking for a compact laptop, a typing machine of a kind, I’d use for typing texts in nvim. So I don’t care how slow it is, but I’d like it to be thin and light, with USB C adapter for charger. Even the battery life is not something I need to be high, all I care for it to handle a single writing session, of an hour or two. Ideally, I’d prefer the laptop to be cheap, I don’t need a typing machine for a grand. This laptop could be perfect for the task, yet it’s a disaster. So far, one of the best laptops I could find is a used MacBook Air 11, can get one for €50 to €100 these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arin@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (2 children) How can fanless intel macbook air make noise? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) They had fans in the Pro, nobody mentioned the Air specifically in this thread. The Air at that time had a crappy Y series Intel CPU in order to go fanless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (1 child) intel airs did have fans anyway. when they switched to apple silicon they removed the fans. The 12” macbook (not air or pro) was fanless but it was a severely gimped CPU and had major issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Ah okay I assumed that since the last Intel Airs used the same shitty Y series Intel CPUs they were also fanless. Now that I'm thinking though - those Airs were the ones that had fans that never really blew at the heatsink permalink fedilink source parent [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Only the MacBook 12 was fanless from the Intel era, but I’m not too sure about that. Airs were never fanless while being Intel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) and that thing was a disaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago Unfortunately, yes. I’m looking for a compact laptop, a typing machine of a kind, I’d use for typing texts in nvim. So I don’t care how slow it is, but I’d like it to be thin and light, with USB C adapter for charger. Even the battery life is not something I need to be high, all I care for it to handle a single writing session, of an hour or two. Ideally, I’d prefer the laptop to be cheap, I don’t need a typing machine for a grand. This laptop could be perfect for the task, yet it’s a disaster. So far, one of the best laptops I could find is a used MacBook Air 11, can get one for €50 to €100 these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) They had fans in the Pro, nobody mentioned the Air specifically in this thread. The Air at that time had a crappy Y series Intel CPU in order to go fanless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (1 child) intel airs did have fans anyway. when they switched to apple silicon they removed the fans. The 12” macbook (not air or pro) was fanless but it was a severely gimped CPU and had major issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Ah okay I assumed that since the last Intel Airs used the same shitty Y series Intel CPUs they were also fanless. Now that I'm thinking though - those Airs were the ones that had fans that never really blew at the heatsink permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (1 child) intel airs did have fans anyway. when they switched to apple silicon they removed the fans. The 12” macbook (not air or pro) was fanless but it was a severely gimped CPU and had major issues. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Ah okay I assumed that since the last Intel Airs used the same shitty Y series Intel CPUs they were also fanless. Now that I'm thinking though - those Airs were the ones that had fans that never really blew at the heatsink permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Ah okay I assumed that since the last Intel Airs used the same shitty Y series Intel CPUs they were also fanless. Now that I'm thinking though - those Airs were the ones that had fans that never really blew at the heatsink permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Only the MacBook 12 was fanless from the Intel era, but I’m not too sure about that. Airs were never fanless while being Intel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) and that thing was a disaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago Unfortunately, yes. I’m looking for a compact laptop, a typing machine of a kind, I’d use for typing texts in nvim. So I don’t care how slow it is, but I’d like it to be thin and light, with USB C adapter for charger. Even the battery life is not something I need to be high, all I care for it to handle a single writing session, of an hour or two. Ideally, I’d prefer the laptop to be cheap, I don’t need a typing machine for a grand. This laptop could be perfect for the task, yet it’s a disaster. So far, one of the best laptops I could find is a used MacBook Air 11, can get one for €50 to €100 these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) and that thing was a disaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago Unfortunately, yes. I’m looking for a compact laptop, a typing machine of a kind, I’d use for typing texts in nvim. So I don’t care how slow it is, but I’d like it to be thin and light, with USB C adapter for charger. Even the battery life is not something I need to be high, all I care for it to handle a single writing session, of an hour or two. Ideally, I’d prefer the laptop to be cheap, I don’t need a typing machine for a grand. This laptop could be perfect for the task, yet it’s a disaster. So far, one of the best laptops I could find is a used MacBook Air 11, can get one for €50 to €100 these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 7 months ago Unfortunately, yes. I’m looking for a compact laptop, a typing machine of a kind, I’d use for typing texts in nvim. So I don’t care how slow it is, but I’d like it to be thin and light, with USB C adapter for charger. Even the battery life is not something I need to be high, all I care for it to handle a single writing session, of an hour or two. Ideally, I’d prefer the laptop to be cheap, I don’t need a typing machine for a grand. This laptop could be perfect for the task, yet it’s a disaster. So far, one of the best laptops I could find is a used MacBook Air 11, can get one for €50 to €100 these days. permalink fedilink source parent