▲ 1387 ▼ Own your own fucking responsibility (lemmy.dbzer0.com) submitted 7 months ago by Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works 141 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 111 points 7 months ago (3 children) permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] RickyRigatoni 33 points 7 months ago* (2 children) Yeah but she's the One Good Billionaire™️ for reasons nobody is able to articulate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (3 children) I thought that was Gabe Newell permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 7 months ago (3 children) Gabe actually does good, though. Valve has been a major contributor to several open source products permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago Taylor Swift also arguably contributes something of value--music that a lot of people really like. Doesn't mean either of them should be able to amass that much wealth. The tax system in the US is broken. In the US in 1961, for example, stock buybacks were illegal (so stocks paid dividends, which are taxable income), and any income above $32,000/year was taxed at 50%, up to a marginal tax rate of 91% for any income above $400,000/year. In contrast, the highest marginal tax rate in the US in 2024 was 37% for any income above $731,200/year, and companies buy back stocks rather than issuing dividends most of the time. Further, most millionaires and billionaires amass wealth through stocks rather than income, using loans against stocks for cash, meaning they pay almost no taxes and continue to amass personal wealth. permalink fedilink source parent [–] noodlejetski@piefed.social 7 points 7 months ago and at the same time makes bank from kids gambling with Counter Strike skins, so a bit of a mixed bag there permalink fedilink source parent [–] sleep_deprived@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Does good != does only good Does good != does good on average Does good != is good permalink fedilink source parent [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago I'll fangirl while I place the basket for his head. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ikidd@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 child) I would hazard a guess that Gabe rarely leaves the house. He's probably more carbon-neutral than 90% of the self-congratulatory twats on this platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) The man owns six (6) yachts. Carbon-neutral my fucking ass. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago To be fair they did say more neutral. I'm not sure the carbon math on yachts vs jets, but he is a gamer, and that's a relatively green hobby for a billionaire. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OpenStars@piefed.social 9 points 7 months ago (1 child) That might have more to do with how bad the others are than whatever she does herself... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children) Yep. She's not publicly eating babies and being carried on a palanquin by the poors. She ain't good, but her badness is orders of magnitude below some of the mustache twirling villains out here tying people to railroad tracks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago She's so good (chorus: how good is she?), she's so good... that I don't even know why people think she is bad. (Also relevant is that I don't truly care enough to look it up?🤪) But in contrast, everyone knows about The Musk, and Bezos, and so on. Taylor Swift, on the other hand, is known to travel in a jet (which considering how she likely goes with a full retinue of 10-50 people each time, and how much she would be absolutely MOBBED even by her adoring fans if she tried to use more public transportation options, definitely is the safest and might even be a very efficient form of travel under those circumstances?). Not the same at all. Then there's the guy that was Luigi'd, not even a billionaire but with that mindset. So if one doesn't need to be a billionaire to act like one, then it stands to reason that one could theoretically become one without needing to act like the others. Maybe. Though whether that applies to her I have no idea. Perhaps she simply has a better PR team. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago That's the thing. Swift is one of the good ones And still needs a turn on the guillotine, so the rest of us can have a future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago Honestly, if jets left trails that looked like this then nobody would want to fly so much, and public outcry would be a lot louder. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (1 child) I do find it funny they use an old 1950s smoky long range bomber as an example permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago If a B-52 is smoking like that it does NOT have a long range anymore permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RickyRigatoni 33 points 7 months ago* (2 children) Yeah but she's the One Good Billionaire™️ for reasons nobody is able to articulate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (3 children) I thought that was Gabe Newell permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 7 months ago (3 children) Gabe actually does good, though. Valve has been a major contributor to several open source products permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago Taylor Swift also arguably contributes something of value--music that a lot of people really like. Doesn't mean either of them should be able to amass that much wealth. The tax system in the US is broken. In the US in 1961, for example, stock buybacks were illegal (so stocks paid dividends, which are taxable income), and any income above $32,000/year was taxed at 50%, up to a marginal tax rate of 91% for any income above $400,000/year. In contrast, the highest marginal tax rate in the US in 2024 was 37% for any income above $731,200/year, and companies buy back stocks rather than issuing dividends most of the time. Further, most millionaires and billionaires amass wealth through stocks rather than income, using loans against stocks for cash, meaning they pay almost no taxes and continue to amass personal wealth. permalink fedilink source parent [–] noodlejetski@piefed.social 7 points 7 months ago and at the same time makes bank from kids gambling with Counter Strike skins, so a bit of a mixed bag there permalink fedilink source parent [–] sleep_deprived@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Does good != does only good Does good != does good on average Does good != is good permalink fedilink source parent [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago I'll fangirl while I place the basket for his head. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ikidd@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 child) I would hazard a guess that Gabe rarely leaves the house. He's probably more carbon-neutral than 90% of the self-congratulatory twats on this platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) The man owns six (6) yachts. Carbon-neutral my fucking ass. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago To be fair they did say more neutral. I'm not sure the carbon math on yachts vs jets, but he is a gamer, and that's a relatively green hobby for a billionaire. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OpenStars@piefed.social 9 points 7 months ago (1 child) That might have more to do with how bad the others are than whatever she does herself... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children) Yep. She's not publicly eating babies and being carried on a palanquin by the poors. She ain't good, but her badness is orders of magnitude below some of the mustache twirling villains out here tying people to railroad tracks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago She's so good (chorus: how good is she?), she's so good... that I don't even know why people think she is bad. (Also relevant is that I don't truly care enough to look it up?🤪) But in contrast, everyone knows about The Musk, and Bezos, and so on. Taylor Swift, on the other hand, is known to travel in a jet (which considering how she likely goes with a full retinue of 10-50 people each time, and how much she would be absolutely MOBBED even by her adoring fans if she tried to use more public transportation options, definitely is the safest and might even be a very efficient form of travel under those circumstances?). Not the same at all. Then there's the guy that was Luigi'd, not even a billionaire but with that mindset. So if one doesn't need to be a billionaire to act like one, then it stands to reason that one could theoretically become one without needing to act like the others. Maybe. Though whether that applies to her I have no idea. Perhaps she simply has a better PR team. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago That's the thing. Swift is one of the good ones And still needs a turn on the guillotine, so the rest of us can have a future. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (3 children) I thought that was Gabe Newell permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 7 months ago (3 children) Gabe actually does good, though. Valve has been a major contributor to several open source products permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago Taylor Swift also arguably contributes something of value--music that a lot of people really like. Doesn't mean either of them should be able to amass that much wealth. The tax system in the US is broken. In the US in 1961, for example, stock buybacks were illegal (so stocks paid dividends, which are taxable income), and any income above $32,000/year was taxed at 50%, up to a marginal tax rate of 91% for any income above $400,000/year. In contrast, the highest marginal tax rate in the US in 2024 was 37% for any income above $731,200/year, and companies buy back stocks rather than issuing dividends most of the time. Further, most millionaires and billionaires amass wealth through stocks rather than income, using loans against stocks for cash, meaning they pay almost no taxes and continue to amass personal wealth. permalink fedilink source parent [–] noodlejetski@piefed.social 7 points 7 months ago and at the same time makes bank from kids gambling with Counter Strike skins, so a bit of a mixed bag there permalink fedilink source parent [–] sleep_deprived@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Does good != does only good Does good != does good on average Does good != is good permalink fedilink source parent [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago I'll fangirl while I place the basket for his head. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ikidd@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 child) I would hazard a guess that Gabe rarely leaves the house. He's probably more carbon-neutral than 90% of the self-congratulatory twats on this platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) The man owns six (6) yachts. Carbon-neutral my fucking ass. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago To be fair they did say more neutral. I'm not sure the carbon math on yachts vs jets, but he is a gamer, and that's a relatively green hobby for a billionaire. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 7 months ago (3 children) Gabe actually does good, though. Valve has been a major contributor to several open source products permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago Taylor Swift also arguably contributes something of value--music that a lot of people really like. Doesn't mean either of them should be able to amass that much wealth. The tax system in the US is broken. In the US in 1961, for example, stock buybacks were illegal (so stocks paid dividends, which are taxable income), and any income above $32,000/year was taxed at 50%, up to a marginal tax rate of 91% for any income above $400,000/year. In contrast, the highest marginal tax rate in the US in 2024 was 37% for any income above $731,200/year, and companies buy back stocks rather than issuing dividends most of the time. Further, most millionaires and billionaires amass wealth through stocks rather than income, using loans against stocks for cash, meaning they pay almost no taxes and continue to amass personal wealth. permalink fedilink source parent [–] noodlejetski@piefed.social 7 points 7 months ago and at the same time makes bank from kids gambling with Counter Strike skins, so a bit of a mixed bag there permalink fedilink source parent [–] sleep_deprived@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Does good != does only good Does good != does good on average Does good != is good permalink fedilink source parent
[–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago Taylor Swift also arguably contributes something of value--music that a lot of people really like. Doesn't mean either of them should be able to amass that much wealth. The tax system in the US is broken. In the US in 1961, for example, stock buybacks were illegal (so stocks paid dividends, which are taxable income), and any income above $32,000/year was taxed at 50%, up to a marginal tax rate of 91% for any income above $400,000/year. In contrast, the highest marginal tax rate in the US in 2024 was 37% for any income above $731,200/year, and companies buy back stocks rather than issuing dividends most of the time. Further, most millionaires and billionaires amass wealth through stocks rather than income, using loans against stocks for cash, meaning they pay almost no taxes and continue to amass personal wealth. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] noodlejetski@piefed.social 7 points 7 months ago and at the same time makes bank from kids gambling with Counter Strike skins, so a bit of a mixed bag there permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sleep_deprived@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Does good != does only good Does good != does good on average Does good != is good permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago I'll fangirl while I place the basket for his head. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ikidd@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 child) I would hazard a guess that Gabe rarely leaves the house. He's probably more carbon-neutral than 90% of the self-congratulatory twats on this platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) The man owns six (6) yachts. Carbon-neutral my fucking ass. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago To be fair they did say more neutral. I'm not sure the carbon math on yachts vs jets, but he is a gamer, and that's a relatively green hobby for a billionaire. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) The man owns six (6) yachts. Carbon-neutral my fucking ass. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago To be fair they did say more neutral. I'm not sure the carbon math on yachts vs jets, but he is a gamer, and that's a relatively green hobby for a billionaire. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago To be fair they did say more neutral. I'm not sure the carbon math on yachts vs jets, but he is a gamer, and that's a relatively green hobby for a billionaire. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 9 points 7 months ago (1 child) That might have more to do with how bad the others are than whatever she does herself... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children) Yep. She's not publicly eating babies and being carried on a palanquin by the poors. She ain't good, but her badness is orders of magnitude below some of the mustache twirling villains out here tying people to railroad tracks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago She's so good (chorus: how good is she?), she's so good... that I don't even know why people think she is bad. (Also relevant is that I don't truly care enough to look it up?🤪) But in contrast, everyone knows about The Musk, and Bezos, and so on. Taylor Swift, on the other hand, is known to travel in a jet (which considering how she likely goes with a full retinue of 10-50 people each time, and how much she would be absolutely MOBBED even by her adoring fans if she tried to use more public transportation options, definitely is the safest and might even be a very efficient form of travel under those circumstances?). Not the same at all. Then there's the guy that was Luigi'd, not even a billionaire but with that mindset. So if one doesn't need to be a billionaire to act like one, then it stands to reason that one could theoretically become one without needing to act like the others. Maybe. Though whether that applies to her I have no idea. Perhaps she simply has a better PR team. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago That's the thing. Swift is one of the good ones And still needs a turn on the guillotine, so the rest of us can have a future. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children) Yep. She's not publicly eating babies and being carried on a palanquin by the poors. She ain't good, but her badness is orders of magnitude below some of the mustache twirling villains out here tying people to railroad tracks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago She's so good (chorus: how good is she?), she's so good... that I don't even know why people think she is bad. (Also relevant is that I don't truly care enough to look it up?🤪) But in contrast, everyone knows about The Musk, and Bezos, and so on. Taylor Swift, on the other hand, is known to travel in a jet (which considering how she likely goes with a full retinue of 10-50 people each time, and how much she would be absolutely MOBBED even by her adoring fans if she tried to use more public transportation options, definitely is the safest and might even be a very efficient form of travel under those circumstances?). Not the same at all. Then there's the guy that was Luigi'd, not even a billionaire but with that mindset. So if one doesn't need to be a billionaire to act like one, then it stands to reason that one could theoretically become one without needing to act like the others. Maybe. Though whether that applies to her I have no idea. Perhaps she simply has a better PR team. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago That's the thing. Swift is one of the good ones And still needs a turn on the guillotine, so the rest of us can have a future. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago She's so good (chorus: how good is she?), she's so good... that I don't even know why people think she is bad. (Also relevant is that I don't truly care enough to look it up?🤪) But in contrast, everyone knows about The Musk, and Bezos, and so on. Taylor Swift, on the other hand, is known to travel in a jet (which considering how she likely goes with a full retinue of 10-50 people each time, and how much she would be absolutely MOBBED even by her adoring fans if she tried to use more public transportation options, definitely is the safest and might even be a very efficient form of travel under those circumstances?). Not the same at all. Then there's the guy that was Luigi'd, not even a billionaire but with that mindset. So if one doesn't need to be a billionaire to act like one, then it stands to reason that one could theoretically become one without needing to act like the others. Maybe. Though whether that applies to her I have no idea. Perhaps she simply has a better PR team. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago That's the thing. Swift is one of the good ones And still needs a turn on the guillotine, so the rest of us can have a future. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago Honestly, if jets left trails that looked like this then nobody would want to fly so much, and public outcry would be a lot louder. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (1 child) I do find it funny they use an old 1950s smoky long range bomber as an example permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago If a B-52 is smoking like that it does NOT have a long range anymore permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago If a B-52 is smoking like that it does NOT have a long range anymore permalink fedilink source parent