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Fellow home owners, are you ready for the housing market to crash? (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world
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I know I'm supposed to want it to keep going up as a wealth generator or whatever.

But like... I wouldn't be able to afford the monthly payments if I bought my house right now and it's scary. Also none of my friends are buying homes, none of them are even renting full places. Just like renting rooms.

So what are your feelings home owners of lemmy?

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[–] 22 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Housing as a wealth generator is a bit of a lie. Prices going up only benefit people or corporations who own multiple homes or those who rent out their homes, and the few people downsizing for retirement by selling their 2500+ sq ft for a small apartment somewhere.

For the regular Joe you always need somewhere to live, so it doesn't matter if your houses is $100k or $1 million, that money is always going to be tied up in the house and not be spendable.

If anything the prices being high is worse for regular home owners because you're going to be paying thousands more in interest on the mortgage that goes straight to the banks.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    I'm not arguing in favor for house prices going up but just wanted to point out how a lot of people use the value of their home. You can pull out money from your house and your interest payments don't change when the value of your house goes up.

    I'll give the example of my neighbor. They bought their house 10 years ago at about $250k. Interest rates were around 4.5%. We're in a location that got really hot during the pandemic and the house value jumped to about $700k. At that moment, they had the same payments as 10 years ago. Then interest rates dropped down below 3%. His balance on the original mortgage is probably about $175k and now he refinances the house with a mortgage of $325k, pays off the old loan, and pockets $150k out of the house. But due to the lower interest rates, his payment is the same as it was 10 years ago. He just has $150k in his pocket. Meanwhile, I'm the schmuck who had to buy the identical house at $700k at 5% and pay 3x for the same house.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Don't forget the increasing property taxes!

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    This was my thought, next year my escrow increases by $100 because my property is supposedly 50% more valuable? Nope, it's a wealth stealer, not a generator.

    Let's also not forget that in a high value market you can't magically sell a more expensive house and acquire a less expensive house of equal value. You have to downsize and the house of lesser value is still overinflated.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    For the regular Joe you always need somewhere to live, so it doesn’t matter if your houses is $100k or $1 million, that money is always going to be tied up in the house and not be spendable.

    I mean, you could take out a loan against your home's appreciated value, but most people do this to put value back into the house, like remodeling or landscaping. The value isn't totally tied behind the sale of the house itself, but your point still stands.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If anything the prices being high is worse for regular home owners because you're going to be paying thousands more in interest on the mortgage that goes

    I always wondered why people never seem to think about this side of the equation.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Your interest rate shouldn't fluctuate with the housing market, unless you have an Adjustable Rate Mortgage. Most people choose a conventional mortgage where you're paying interest on the value of the loan you received from the lender, not on the value of the property itself. You can voluntarily refinance the house to get a lower monthly payment if the interest rates go down, but if they go up, you're insulated from the impact except in the fact that you now likely have less mobility because having to pay a 7% interest rate when you are used to paying your 3.5% rate on a same-value house means you can't just sell and expect the monthly price you pay to remain the same.

    Your taxes and insurance, on the other hand, do quickly balloon out of control if your property suddenly spikes up in value.

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