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Pornhub goes dark in Arkansas after age verification law kicks in (www.theverge.com)
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Pornhub goes dark in Arkansas after age verification law kicks in::Pornhub operator MindGeek has blocked all users in Arkansas from the site after the state’s new age verification law went into effect.

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[–] 17 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Every phone and computer has parental control options that allow for as much control as you feel necessary. And obviously as you kids gets older you have to trust in your upbringing - but that's also completely on you, to teach your kids to deal with modern media.

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  • [+] -9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    No, not every phone and computer has parental control options. What about the PCs at libraries and schools? What about older siblings? Other students? Friends of the kid? It's completely unrealistic to claim parents should just supervise every media usage.

    People also aren't robots where you put "upbringing" in and get predictable results. You can teach them all you want, unless you completely ignore all privacy rights of your children, you won't be able to control their media consumption.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    No, not every phone and computer has parental control options.

    Which one don't have one? And even if there are few - it's not hard to get one with for your kids.

    What about the PCs at libraries and schools?

    Even in my day and age we had restricted access to things on our school pc - learning to get around it was the only useful thing I learned in those classes. But here the same, there are software solutions to control access on local machines.

    What about older siblings? Other students? Friends of the kid?

    What about them? They all also have parents or people responsible for them.

    It’s completely unrealistic to claim parents should just supervise every media usage.

    Because they should not. They should teach children to use media and gradually trust them more and more to make their own decisions. Like with everything else.

    You can teach them all you want, unless you completely ignore all privacy rights of your children, you won’t be able to control their media consumption.

    And as I said, you should not -you should teach them and then learn to trust them - that's hard part of being a parent, you don't have control over your childs life.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago*

    No real side in this debate because I don't have kids and am basically an anti-natalist but I don't think it's terribly important to control kids media access above a certain age anyway.

    It's probably important to prevent them from accidentally seeing irrelevant filth, and may make sense to prevent them from accessing certain stuff before they're ten or eleven. But I had near unfettered access to the wild world of the Internet from a young age and I don't think it made a big negative difference.

    I personally think it was important to my development to be able to explore things on my own terms in the relatively safe way of accessing pages on the Internet.

    I do think, however, that social media is likely riskier than media consumption for children in certain age groups, but most parents seem to be a-ok with their kids mainlining that and worried instead that they may accidentally see a nipple.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Which one don’t have one?

    The ones I mentioned directly after... Please, do not quote out of context.

    I feel like people miss the context of the original content and put words in my mouth. I was referring to the claim that parents can "simply" supervise, and should supervise, all media consumption of their children. Which I argue is impossible without infringing on the children's rights of privacy.

    It's like people misinterpret my point with intent. Or there is a huge language barrier I can not comprehend.

    You can not supervise every media consumption of your children. That is all I wanted to say. I didn't even comment upon whether or not and how good it works (or not) to teach your children about responsible media consumption. That's a whole different topic.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The ones I mentioned directly after… Please, do not quote out of context.

    So none. All devices have the capability to control access.

    Which I argue is impossible without infringing on the children’s rights of privacy.

    But that whole conversation is in context of governmental control vs. parental control. In my opinion governmental control infringes much more on everyones rights in this case. So obviously your statement is interpreted in this context, not in vacuum.

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