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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 9 points 7 months ago* (3 children) Tell me the Gender of Nutella or Yogurt, then :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] capuccino@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago La nutella (she) y el (he) yogurt. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 4 points 7 months ago (2 children) Nutella -- female, Yogurt -- male. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children) curious: but why? is there a formula or is it a combination of memorization with relations? ie: “i dont remember the gender of a trash can but I know a cooking pot is male and I cook like trash so a trash can is male?” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) usually if it ends in "a" it's feminine versus "o" for masculine, but there are exceptions for that too! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) interesting. language is interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children) And easy. For example "futbolista" is "female football player", because it ends in "a", and "futbolista" is "male football player" because... Wait what? Another easy example is "mar" (sea). It's clearly masculine. Except if you're a poet in love with the sea and you make it female because "no homo" I guess. OK, the sea is fluid (pun intended), makes sense. What about the computer? "Computadora" is femenine. But it's synonym "ordenador" is masculine. So it's a property of the word, not what it represents. This creates a rare case when someone use the english "desktop" to refer to the computer, but still inherit the female from "computadora", so it's "la desktop". Or my favorite, Mano (hand), witch is strong so obviously male. But if it's little hand (manita) then it's not strong so female. Except in some counties were remains male. Next week in "WTF is wrong with Spanish: ser and estar ("to be" and "to be, but like different") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I don't know what dialect you speak where "Mano" is masculine. In Spain it is feminine, and I've never heard anyone say "el mano". I've also never heard anyone say "el manita". I don't think "ser" and "estar" being different verbs is at all wrong with spanish. They are very clearly different concepts. You can be something because it is part of you "I am tall" or you can be something situationally "I am at the library". What is weird to me is that English uses the same verb for those clearly different concepts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Somehow the ser vs estar distinction almost makes sense. I don't like it but I understand it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Last letter/sound matters. Some -- female, some -- male, some -- neutral (we have 3 grammatical genders in my language) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) “matters” but curious where the logic or rules come from and is it harder than expected for folks who cannot hear the sound? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) logic or rules come from That is a "natural" language. Not C++ or Esperanto. No logic. Just bullshit and idiocy. is it harder than expected for folks who cannot hear the sound? Absolutely trivial for anyone. If the word ends with "a", it is female. If any consonant -- male, "o" -- neutral. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago interesting. i know there are some linguistics books out there I may look into any about this. appreciated the replies! permalink fedilink source parent [–] matelt@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Nah pal it's le Nutella. Don't ask me why cause I don't know. The word ending in 'a' isn't a valid argument because you don't drink une Fanta do you? Or do you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I believe this comment chain is about spanish, not french. In Spanish the last letter of the word is right most of the time. We do say "una Fanta". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matelt@feddit.uk 1 point 7 months ago Well it's on a thread about how ridiculous French is permalink fedilink source parent [–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Is the gender of yogurt under debate in Germany? I am only aware of Nutella and butter. Yogurt was always male. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] manucode@infosec.pub 1 point 7 months ago* (1 child) According to Duden, Joghurt may have any gender. I agree with you though that it should be der Joghurt. Edit: It seems like die/das Joghurt is mostly used outside Germany. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 point 7 months ago What is it with the Austrians always stirring up shit? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago La nutella (she) y el (he) yogurt. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 4 points 7 months ago (2 children) Nutella -- female, Yogurt -- male. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children) curious: but why? is there a formula or is it a combination of memorization with relations? ie: “i dont remember the gender of a trash can but I know a cooking pot is male and I cook like trash so a trash can is male?” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) usually if it ends in "a" it's feminine versus "o" for masculine, but there are exceptions for that too! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) interesting. language is interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children) And easy. For example "futbolista" is "female football player", because it ends in "a", and "futbolista" is "male football player" because... Wait what? Another easy example is "mar" (sea). It's clearly masculine. Except if you're a poet in love with the sea and you make it female because "no homo" I guess. OK, the sea is fluid (pun intended), makes sense. What about the computer? "Computadora" is femenine. But it's synonym "ordenador" is masculine. So it's a property of the word, not what it represents. This creates a rare case when someone use the english "desktop" to refer to the computer, but still inherit the female from "computadora", so it's "la desktop". Or my favorite, Mano (hand), witch is strong so obviously male. But if it's little hand (manita) then it's not strong so female. Except in some counties were remains male. Next week in "WTF is wrong with Spanish: ser and estar ("to be" and "to be, but like different") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I don't know what dialect you speak where "Mano" is masculine. In Spain it is feminine, and I've never heard anyone say "el mano". I've also never heard anyone say "el manita". I don't think "ser" and "estar" being different verbs is at all wrong with spanish. They are very clearly different concepts. You can be something because it is part of you "I am tall" or you can be something situationally "I am at the library". What is weird to me is that English uses the same verb for those clearly different concepts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Somehow the ser vs estar distinction almost makes sense. I don't like it but I understand it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Last letter/sound matters. Some -- female, some -- male, some -- neutral (we have 3 grammatical genders in my language) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) “matters” but curious where the logic or rules come from and is it harder than expected for folks who cannot hear the sound? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) logic or rules come from That is a "natural" language. Not C++ or Esperanto. No logic. Just bullshit and idiocy. is it harder than expected for folks who cannot hear the sound? Absolutely trivial for anyone. If the word ends with "a", it is female. If any consonant -- male, "o" -- neutral. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago interesting. i know there are some linguistics books out there I may look into any about this. appreciated the replies! permalink fedilink source parent [–] matelt@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Nah pal it's le Nutella. Don't ask me why cause I don't know. The word ending in 'a' isn't a valid argument because you don't drink une Fanta do you? Or do you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I believe this comment chain is about spanish, not french. In Spanish the last letter of the word is right most of the time. We do say "una Fanta". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matelt@feddit.uk 1 point 7 months ago Well it's on a thread about how ridiculous French is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children) curious: but why? is there a formula or is it a combination of memorization with relations? ie: “i dont remember the gender of a trash can but I know a cooking pot is male and I cook like trash so a trash can is male?” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) usually if it ends in "a" it's feminine versus "o" for masculine, but there are exceptions for that too! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) interesting. language is interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children) And easy. For example "futbolista" is "female football player", because it ends in "a", and "futbolista" is "male football player" because... Wait what? Another easy example is "mar" (sea). It's clearly masculine. Except if you're a poet in love with the sea and you make it female because "no homo" I guess. OK, the sea is fluid (pun intended), makes sense. What about the computer? "Computadora" is femenine. But it's synonym "ordenador" is masculine. So it's a property of the word, not what it represents. This creates a rare case when someone use the english "desktop" to refer to the computer, but still inherit the female from "computadora", so it's "la desktop". Or my favorite, Mano (hand), witch is strong so obviously male. But if it's little hand (manita) then it's not strong so female. Except in some counties were remains male. Next week in "WTF is wrong with Spanish: ser and estar ("to be" and "to be, but like different") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I don't know what dialect you speak where "Mano" is masculine. In Spain it is feminine, and I've never heard anyone say "el mano". I've also never heard anyone say "el manita". I don't think "ser" and "estar" being different verbs is at all wrong with spanish. They are very clearly different concepts. You can be something because it is part of you "I am tall" or you can be something situationally "I am at the library". What is weird to me is that English uses the same verb for those clearly different concepts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Somehow the ser vs estar distinction almost makes sense. I don't like it but I understand it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Last letter/sound matters. Some -- female, some -- male, some -- neutral (we have 3 grammatical genders in my language) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) “matters” but curious where the logic or rules come from and is it harder than expected for folks who cannot hear the sound? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) logic or rules come from That is a "natural" language. Not C++ or Esperanto. No logic. Just bullshit and idiocy. is it harder than expected for folks who cannot hear the sound? Absolutely trivial for anyone. If the word ends with "a", it is female. If any consonant -- male, "o" -- neutral. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago interesting. i know there are some linguistics books out there I may look into any about this. appreciated the replies! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) usually if it ends in "a" it's feminine versus "o" for masculine, but there are exceptions for that too! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) interesting. language is interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children) And easy. For example "futbolista" is "female football player", because it ends in "a", and "futbolista" is "male football player" because... Wait what? Another easy example is "mar" (sea). It's clearly masculine. Except if you're a poet in love with the sea and you make it female because "no homo" I guess. OK, the sea is fluid (pun intended), makes sense. What about the computer? "Computadora" is femenine. But it's synonym "ordenador" is masculine. So it's a property of the word, not what it represents. This creates a rare case when someone use the english "desktop" to refer to the computer, but still inherit the female from "computadora", so it's "la desktop". Or my favorite, Mano (hand), witch is strong so obviously male. But if it's little hand (manita) then it's not strong so female. Except in some counties were remains male. Next week in "WTF is wrong with Spanish: ser and estar ("to be" and "to be, but like different") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I don't know what dialect you speak where "Mano" is masculine. In Spain it is feminine, and I've never heard anyone say "el mano". I've also never heard anyone say "el manita". I don't think "ser" and "estar" being different verbs is at all wrong with spanish. They are very clearly different concepts. You can be something because it is part of you "I am tall" or you can be something situationally "I am at the library". What is weird to me is that English uses the same verb for those clearly different concepts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Somehow the ser vs estar distinction almost makes sense. I don't like it but I understand it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) interesting. language is interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children) And easy. For example "futbolista" is "female football player", because it ends in "a", and "futbolista" is "male football player" because... Wait what? Another easy example is "mar" (sea). It's clearly masculine. Except if you're a poet in love with the sea and you make it female because "no homo" I guess. OK, the sea is fluid (pun intended), makes sense. What about the computer? "Computadora" is femenine. But it's synonym "ordenador" is masculine. So it's a property of the word, not what it represents. This creates a rare case when someone use the english "desktop" to refer to the computer, but still inherit the female from "computadora", so it's "la desktop". Or my favorite, Mano (hand), witch is strong so obviously male. But if it's little hand (manita) then it's not strong so female. Except in some counties were remains male. Next week in "WTF is wrong with Spanish: ser and estar ("to be" and "to be, but like different") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I don't know what dialect you speak where "Mano" is masculine. In Spain it is feminine, and I've never heard anyone say "el mano". I've also never heard anyone say "el manita". I don't think "ser" and "estar" being different verbs is at all wrong with spanish. They are very clearly different concepts. You can be something because it is part of you "I am tall" or you can be something situationally "I am at the library". What is weird to me is that English uses the same verb for those clearly different concepts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Somehow the ser vs estar distinction almost makes sense. I don't like it but I understand it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children) And easy. For example "futbolista" is "female football player", because it ends in "a", and "futbolista" is "male football player" because... Wait what? Another easy example is "mar" (sea). It's clearly masculine. Except if you're a poet in love with the sea and you make it female because "no homo" I guess. OK, the sea is fluid (pun intended), makes sense. What about the computer? "Computadora" is femenine. But it's synonym "ordenador" is masculine. So it's a property of the word, not what it represents. This creates a rare case when someone use the english "desktop" to refer to the computer, but still inherit the female from "computadora", so it's "la desktop". Or my favorite, Mano (hand), witch is strong so obviously male. But if it's little hand (manita) then it's not strong so female. Except in some counties were remains male. Next week in "WTF is wrong with Spanish: ser and estar ("to be" and "to be, but like different") permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I don't know what dialect you speak where "Mano" is masculine. In Spain it is feminine, and I've never heard anyone say "el mano". I've also never heard anyone say "el manita". I don't think "ser" and "estar" being different verbs is at all wrong with spanish. They are very clearly different concepts. You can be something because it is part of you "I am tall" or you can be something situationally "I am at the library". What is weird to me is that English uses the same verb for those clearly different concepts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Somehow the ser vs estar distinction almost makes sense. I don't like it but I understand it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I don't know what dialect you speak where "Mano" is masculine. In Spain it is feminine, and I've never heard anyone say "el mano". I've also never heard anyone say "el manita". I don't think "ser" and "estar" being different verbs is at all wrong with spanish. They are very clearly different concepts. You can be something because it is part of you "I am tall" or you can be something situationally "I am at the library". What is weird to me is that English uses the same verb for those clearly different concepts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Somehow the ser vs estar distinction almost makes sense. I don't like it but I understand it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Last letter/sound matters. Some -- female, some -- male, some -- neutral (we have 3 grammatical genders in my language) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) “matters” but curious where the logic or rules come from and is it harder than expected for folks who cannot hear the sound? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) logic or rules come from That is a "natural" language. Not C++ or Esperanto. No logic. Just bullshit and idiocy. is it harder than expected for folks who cannot hear the sound? Absolutely trivial for anyone. If the word ends with "a", it is female. If any consonant -- male, "o" -- neutral. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago interesting. i know there are some linguistics books out there I may look into any about this. appreciated the replies! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) “matters” but curious where the logic or rules come from and is it harder than expected for folks who cannot hear the sound? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) logic or rules come from That is a "natural" language. Not C++ or Esperanto. No logic. Just bullshit and idiocy. is it harder than expected for folks who cannot hear the sound? Absolutely trivial for anyone. If the word ends with "a", it is female. If any consonant -- male, "o" -- neutral. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago interesting. i know there are some linguistics books out there I may look into any about this. appreciated the replies! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) logic or rules come from That is a "natural" language. Not C++ or Esperanto. No logic. Just bullshit and idiocy. is it harder than expected for folks who cannot hear the sound? Absolutely trivial for anyone. If the word ends with "a", it is female. If any consonant -- male, "o" -- neutral. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago interesting. i know there are some linguistics books out there I may look into any about this. appreciated the replies! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago interesting. i know there are some linguistics books out there I may look into any about this. appreciated the replies! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] matelt@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Nah pal it's le Nutella. Don't ask me why cause I don't know. The word ending in 'a' isn't a valid argument because you don't drink une Fanta do you? Or do you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I believe this comment chain is about spanish, not french. In Spanish the last letter of the word is right most of the time. We do say "una Fanta". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matelt@feddit.uk 1 point 7 months ago Well it's on a thread about how ridiculous French is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I believe this comment chain is about spanish, not french. In Spanish the last letter of the word is right most of the time. We do say "una Fanta". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] matelt@feddit.uk 1 point 7 months ago Well it's on a thread about how ridiculous French is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] matelt@feddit.uk 1 point 7 months ago Well it's on a thread about how ridiculous French is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Is the gender of yogurt under debate in Germany? I am only aware of Nutella and butter. Yogurt was always male. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] manucode@infosec.pub 1 point 7 months ago* (1 child) According to Duden, Joghurt may have any gender. I agree with you though that it should be der Joghurt. Edit: It seems like die/das Joghurt is mostly used outside Germany. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 point 7 months ago What is it with the Austrians always stirring up shit? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] manucode@infosec.pub 1 point 7 months ago* (1 child) According to Duden, Joghurt may have any gender. I agree with you though that it should be der Joghurt. Edit: It seems like die/das Joghurt is mostly used outside Germany. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 point 7 months ago What is it with the Austrians always stirring up shit? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 point 7 months ago What is it with the Austrians always stirring up shit? permalink fedilink source parent