▲ 778 ▼ Linux continues to grow and has reached a new peak of 3.20% in the November 2025 Steam Hardware & Software Survey (lemmy.ml) submitted 8 months ago by mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.world 181 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
[–] slartibartfast@feddit.uk 17 points 8 months ago* (2 children) GamingOnLinux estimates >7% of English language install base for Steam is using Linux (if I'm understanding this correctly): GamingOnLinux Steam Tracker permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] addie@feddit.uk 12 points 8 months ago (4 children) Yeah, indeed. Steam language breakdown is about 40% English, 30% Chinese, 10% Russian, 5% Spanish, 15% other. Chinese speakers overwhelmingly use Windows rather than Linux, so choosing 'English only' basically doubles the Linux percentage. I'd be interested to know why Linux has such bad update in Chinese-speaking regions. (It's the lingua franca for much of Asia, so not just China, just largely China.) Obviously, inertia plays a part - easier to move to Linux if you know someone else that can help you, which if there's no-one then you might be a bit stuck. Are the fonts crappy? Are the input methods greatly superior in Windows? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] groet@feddit.org 10 points 8 months ago (1 child) I would put it down to censorship. Not of Linux directly but of information about noncomformity. Windows is the default OS for desktop PCs and I imagine it is easier to get exposed to the idea of searching an alternative in the west than in China. If you never question the oppressive bullshit corporations are doing to you, you will not think to break free and use Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 10 points 8 months ago i find this a little difficult to believe when china develops and promotes their own linux distro and desktop environment permalink fedilink source parent [–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) they do not care about many of the things that people in western societies care about. they do not care about privacy. they want to use the same type of computer their friends and coworkers are using. 11 is a higher number than 10. unless there's a chinese linux distro that gets pre-installed at the factory, along with a government ban of windows (it could happen), they will be the last society to adopt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wolf@lemmy.today 3 points 8 months ago 11 is a higher number than 10 Jokes on them. I am using 24.04. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago* I’d be interested to know why Linux has such bad update in Chinese-speaking regions. I wonder if language in particular may be a factor hindering Linux adoption there? How does the documentation for Linux (including forums, how-tos, blogs, etc) available in Chinese dialects compare to what is available in English, and how well does machine translation work for translating the English sources? The documentation available online for Linux very often involves the command line. How much of a pain is it for people who only speak Chinese dialects to use an English command line? If the commands are available in Chinese, how well do the machine translations of the English documentation sources work for that purpose. I feel that there are probably significant language barriers that have an effect here, and effectively create a chicken-and-egg problem for Linux adoption, possibly limiting Linux usage to Chinese people who are relatively proficient in English. For reference, here's an article about what proportion of Chinese people speaks English (it seems to be around 5%?): https://www.thehistoryofenglish.com/how-many-people-in-china-speak-english permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago That chart shows what I would interpret as really strong Linux growth. Somewhere around 200% growth in the last 4 years, and seems to be significantly accelerating. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] addie@feddit.uk 12 points 8 months ago (4 children) Yeah, indeed. Steam language breakdown is about 40% English, 30% Chinese, 10% Russian, 5% Spanish, 15% other. Chinese speakers overwhelmingly use Windows rather than Linux, so choosing 'English only' basically doubles the Linux percentage. I'd be interested to know why Linux has such bad update in Chinese-speaking regions. (It's the lingua franca for much of Asia, so not just China, just largely China.) Obviously, inertia plays a part - easier to move to Linux if you know someone else that can help you, which if there's no-one then you might be a bit stuck. Are the fonts crappy? Are the input methods greatly superior in Windows? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] groet@feddit.org 10 points 8 months ago (1 child) I would put it down to censorship. Not of Linux directly but of information about noncomformity. Windows is the default OS for desktop PCs and I imagine it is easier to get exposed to the idea of searching an alternative in the west than in China. If you never question the oppressive bullshit corporations are doing to you, you will not think to break free and use Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 10 points 8 months ago i find this a little difficult to believe when china develops and promotes their own linux distro and desktop environment permalink fedilink source parent [–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) they do not care about many of the things that people in western societies care about. they do not care about privacy. they want to use the same type of computer their friends and coworkers are using. 11 is a higher number than 10. unless there's a chinese linux distro that gets pre-installed at the factory, along with a government ban of windows (it could happen), they will be the last society to adopt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wolf@lemmy.today 3 points 8 months ago 11 is a higher number than 10 Jokes on them. I am using 24.04. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago* I’d be interested to know why Linux has such bad update in Chinese-speaking regions. I wonder if language in particular may be a factor hindering Linux adoption there? How does the documentation for Linux (including forums, how-tos, blogs, etc) available in Chinese dialects compare to what is available in English, and how well does machine translation work for translating the English sources? The documentation available online for Linux very often involves the command line. How much of a pain is it for people who only speak Chinese dialects to use an English command line? If the commands are available in Chinese, how well do the machine translations of the English documentation sources work for that purpose. I feel that there are probably significant language barriers that have an effect here, and effectively create a chicken-and-egg problem for Linux adoption, possibly limiting Linux usage to Chinese people who are relatively proficient in English. For reference, here's an article about what proportion of Chinese people speaks English (it seems to be around 5%?): https://www.thehistoryofenglish.com/how-many-people-in-china-speak-english permalink fedilink source parent
[–] groet@feddit.org 10 points 8 months ago (1 child) I would put it down to censorship. Not of Linux directly but of information about noncomformity. Windows is the default OS for desktop PCs and I imagine it is easier to get exposed to the idea of searching an alternative in the west than in China. If you never question the oppressive bullshit corporations are doing to you, you will not think to break free and use Linux. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 10 points 8 months ago i find this a little difficult to believe when china develops and promotes their own linux distro and desktop environment permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 10 points 8 months ago i find this a little difficult to believe when china develops and promotes their own linux distro and desktop environment permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) they do not care about many of the things that people in western societies care about. they do not care about privacy. they want to use the same type of computer their friends and coworkers are using. 11 is a higher number than 10. unless there's a chinese linux distro that gets pre-installed at the factory, along with a government ban of windows (it could happen), they will be the last society to adopt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Wolf@lemmy.today 3 points 8 months ago 11 is a higher number than 10 Jokes on them. I am using 24.04. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 3 points 8 months ago 11 is a higher number than 10 Jokes on them. I am using 24.04. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago* I’d be interested to know why Linux has such bad update in Chinese-speaking regions. I wonder if language in particular may be a factor hindering Linux adoption there? How does the documentation for Linux (including forums, how-tos, blogs, etc) available in Chinese dialects compare to what is available in English, and how well does machine translation work for translating the English sources? The documentation available online for Linux very often involves the command line. How much of a pain is it for people who only speak Chinese dialects to use an English command line? If the commands are available in Chinese, how well do the machine translations of the English documentation sources work for that purpose. I feel that there are probably significant language barriers that have an effect here, and effectively create a chicken-and-egg problem for Linux adoption, possibly limiting Linux usage to Chinese people who are relatively proficient in English. For reference, here's an article about what proportion of Chinese people speaks English (it seems to be around 5%?): https://www.thehistoryofenglish.com/how-many-people-in-china-speak-english permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago That chart shows what I would interpret as really strong Linux growth. Somewhere around 200% growth in the last 4 years, and seems to be significantly accelerating. permalink fedilink source parent