▲ 535 ▼ YSK that Apple makes millions of dollars with personalized advertising. If you have an iPhone or iPad, you should turn it off. (lemmy.world) submitted 8 months ago* by vanidian1@lemmy.world to c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world 106 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (3 children) Everyone says Apple cares about privacy. Why is this even there? permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (2 children) If they cared less you wouldn’t even get the option permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Google and Facebook do the same thing, doesn't make them any more privacy friendly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) Google and Facebook don’t enforce these kinds of setting onto their internal apps When you tell iOS to not share info with applications it actually doesn’t share that info with applications. Facebook sued Apple over this. Look, I don’t worship Apple but it’s just wrong to say they aren’t wayyy more protective of privacy than almost everyone else https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/apples-new-privacy-features-subject-of-potential-litigation-from-facebook Edit; violating apples privacy rules subjected Facebook to legal liability (https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2022/09/22/facebook-keeps-giving-users-more-reasons-to-delete-their-accounts/) Fb sues Apple for letting users choose not to share information at the system level (https://business-law-review.law.miami.edu/battle-tech-giants-apple-facebook-clash-consumer-data-privacy/) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Apple may block third party from accessing your info, but they won't block themselves from doing the exact same thing Google does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago Apple collects information sure but it’s nowhere near as much as Google does and this is verifiable. None of these companies are good but Apple is by far the least bad when it comes to respecting your privacy permalink fedilink source parent [–] piyuv@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 child) Not true. They’re required by law. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Incorrect permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] piyuv@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago GDPR Article 7: Art. 7(3): Users must be able to withdraw consent at any time, and it must be as easy to withdraw as to give → This is why an opt-out must exist. permalink fedilink source parent [+] melfie@lemy.lol 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) Apple does sell privacy. They market it as a feature. And their hardware sales margins are hilarious. So in this case they do have some incentive for privacy/security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago They do even better - they sell the idea of privacy. Then they're free to double dip. Or triple dip if selling in a place like China. permalink fedilink source parent [–] masto@lemmy.masto.community 2 points 8 months ago Apple doesn’t care about privacy. Apple cares about one thing: money. Their first advertising platform failed to take off, so they turned on their marketing machine and manipulated people into believing that their failure at trying to sell you out was actually some kind of corporate benevolence. There has never been anything further from the truth. Wave a dollar bill in front of Tim Cook and he’ll defile his grandmother's corpse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (2 children) If they cared less you wouldn’t even get the option permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Google and Facebook do the same thing, doesn't make them any more privacy friendly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) Google and Facebook don’t enforce these kinds of setting onto their internal apps When you tell iOS to not share info with applications it actually doesn’t share that info with applications. Facebook sued Apple over this. Look, I don’t worship Apple but it’s just wrong to say they aren’t wayyy more protective of privacy than almost everyone else https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/apples-new-privacy-features-subject-of-potential-litigation-from-facebook Edit; violating apples privacy rules subjected Facebook to legal liability (https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2022/09/22/facebook-keeps-giving-users-more-reasons-to-delete-their-accounts/) Fb sues Apple for letting users choose not to share information at the system level (https://business-law-review.law.miami.edu/battle-tech-giants-apple-facebook-clash-consumer-data-privacy/) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Apple may block third party from accessing your info, but they won't block themselves from doing the exact same thing Google does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago Apple collects information sure but it’s nowhere near as much as Google does and this is verifiable. None of these companies are good but Apple is by far the least bad when it comes to respecting your privacy permalink fedilink source parent [–] piyuv@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 child) Not true. They’re required by law. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Incorrect permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] piyuv@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago GDPR Article 7: Art. 7(3): Users must be able to withdraw consent at any time, and it must be as easy to withdraw as to give → This is why an opt-out must exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Google and Facebook do the same thing, doesn't make them any more privacy friendly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) Google and Facebook don’t enforce these kinds of setting onto their internal apps When you tell iOS to not share info with applications it actually doesn’t share that info with applications. Facebook sued Apple over this. Look, I don’t worship Apple but it’s just wrong to say they aren’t wayyy more protective of privacy than almost everyone else https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/apples-new-privacy-features-subject-of-potential-litigation-from-facebook Edit; violating apples privacy rules subjected Facebook to legal liability (https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2022/09/22/facebook-keeps-giving-users-more-reasons-to-delete-their-accounts/) Fb sues Apple for letting users choose not to share information at the system level (https://business-law-review.law.miami.edu/battle-tech-giants-apple-facebook-clash-consumer-data-privacy/) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Apple may block third party from accessing your info, but they won't block themselves from doing the exact same thing Google does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago Apple collects information sure but it’s nowhere near as much as Google does and this is verifiable. None of these companies are good but Apple is by far the least bad when it comes to respecting your privacy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) Google and Facebook don’t enforce these kinds of setting onto their internal apps When you tell iOS to not share info with applications it actually doesn’t share that info with applications. Facebook sued Apple over this. Look, I don’t worship Apple but it’s just wrong to say they aren’t wayyy more protective of privacy than almost everyone else https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/apples-new-privacy-features-subject-of-potential-litigation-from-facebook Edit; violating apples privacy rules subjected Facebook to legal liability (https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2022/09/22/facebook-keeps-giving-users-more-reasons-to-delete-their-accounts/) Fb sues Apple for letting users choose not to share information at the system level (https://business-law-review.law.miami.edu/battle-tech-giants-apple-facebook-clash-consumer-data-privacy/) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Apple may block third party from accessing your info, but they won't block themselves from doing the exact same thing Google does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago Apple collects information sure but it’s nowhere near as much as Google does and this is verifiable. None of these companies are good but Apple is by far the least bad when it comes to respecting your privacy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Apple may block third party from accessing your info, but they won't block themselves from doing the exact same thing Google does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago Apple collects information sure but it’s nowhere near as much as Google does and this is verifiable. None of these companies are good but Apple is by far the least bad when it comes to respecting your privacy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago Apple collects information sure but it’s nowhere near as much as Google does and this is verifiable. None of these companies are good but Apple is by far the least bad when it comes to respecting your privacy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] piyuv@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 child) Not true. They’re required by law. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Incorrect permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] piyuv@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago GDPR Article 7: Art. 7(3): Users must be able to withdraw consent at any time, and it must be as easy to withdraw as to give → This is why an opt-out must exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Incorrect permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] piyuv@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago GDPR Article 7: Art. 7(3): Users must be able to withdraw consent at any time, and it must be as easy to withdraw as to give → This is why an opt-out must exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago GDPR Article 7: Art. 7(3): Users must be able to withdraw consent at any time, and it must be as easy to withdraw as to give → This is why an opt-out must exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] melfie@lemy.lol 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) Apple does sell privacy. They market it as a feature. And their hardware sales margins are hilarious. So in this case they do have some incentive for privacy/security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago They do even better - they sell the idea of privacy. Then they're free to double dip. Or triple dip if selling in a place like China. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) Apple does sell privacy. They market it as a feature. And their hardware sales margins are hilarious. So in this case they do have some incentive for privacy/security. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago They do even better - they sell the idea of privacy. Then they're free to double dip. Or triple dip if selling in a place like China. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago They do even better - they sell the idea of privacy. Then they're free to double dip. Or triple dip if selling in a place like China. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] masto@lemmy.masto.community 2 points 8 months ago Apple doesn’t care about privacy. Apple cares about one thing: money. Their first advertising platform failed to take off, so they turned on their marketing machine and manipulated people into believing that their failure at trying to sell you out was actually some kind of corporate benevolence. There has never been anything further from the truth. Wave a dollar bill in front of Tim Cook and he’ll defile his grandmother's corpse. permalink fedilink source parent