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Linux comes for Windows at 40 — and gaming can't save it (www.makeuseof.com)
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To not much official fanfare on Thursday, the Windows operating system turned 40 years old, marking four decades since Windows 1.0 debuted in the United States on November 20, 1985. Its midlife milestone comes with a crisis, though. Diehard Windows users are switching to Linux for a variety of reasons.

For one, gaming is finally better on Linux machines, which makes the moat Windows dug for itself a little more passable. Add to that the end of support for Windows 10 in October, the growing frustration among power users about Microsoft Recall, and the growing number of polarizing features, and power users are finding plenty of reasons to make the switch to Linux.

It's unclear if the wave of Windows power users loudly moving to Linux has crested yet, or if this is just the beginning. That said, the past year has seen a flood of articles like this one, scores of posts on Reddit, and YouTube videos documenting and occasionally evangelizing the conversion to Linux.

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[–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

So you're advocating for slowing process, bad user experience, and duplicating shitty email functionality in every app to receive and send email limiting communications. Got it.

people dont get familiar with UX

Yes they do. Duplicating email into other systems that doesnt have anywhere near the same functionality and flow as their dedicated email app which is designed for email is frustrating, and restricts communication.

ticketing system

Wtf does classing have to do with ticketing systems. It applies to records management, project management, legal case management, the list goes on. It applies to most business

using email for business process must die

Oh my sweet summer child. I've got news for you: email is HOW business is conducted. That is not going away any time soon.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    So you’re advocating for slowing process, bad user experience, and duplicating shitty email functionality in every app to receive and send email limiting communications. Got it.

    Yeah, if you ignore everything I said and invent your own stuff, then this is exactly right.

    Yes they do. Duplicating email into other systems that doesnt have anywhere near the same functionality and flow as their dedicated email app which is designed for email is frustrating, and restricts communication

    I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that you think that email is somehow the peak of UX.

    Could you give me an example of a process that's much better handled via API to Outlook than literally anything else?

    Wtf does classing have to do with ticketing systems. It applies to records management, project management, legal case management, the list goes on. It applies to most business

    Wow, these all sound like important things that should definitely not be handled via Outlook. But, again, I might be super wrong - please give me an example, because maybe we're talking about two different things.

    Oh my sweet summer child. I’ve got news for you: email is HOW business is conducted. That is not going away any time soon.

    Are you from the US?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (1 child)

    peak of UX

    Good UX.

    give an example

    Already have provided 1 of many examples: classing. Applying a type to the communication relevant to the business. To the process it could be scope, direction, decision ect. This can route, tag, extract, modify and move/copy messages automatically to target services.

    Just to be clear I am not advocating for building Microsoft Lotus notes (Teams), not at all. Quite the opposite.

    However jumping between apps is how mistakes are made, and evidence lost from laziness or "too busy". IMO Email communications should only be handled by Outlook or a dedicated email client that has the depth of functionality for good communication. Addins provide the middleware between different products and services to integrate them. It can even be completely transparent to the user.

    Bringing this back to the topic. The shift to the web only Outlook means no more BYO libraries, no more .net , no more OS api, no more COM api. These provide an enormous amount of capability for addins to leverage and provide integration. Now with website Outlook, the api is incredibly limitted and entirely controlled by Microsoft, there is no BYO libraries and connectivity and those existing web api's can and are removed at whim removing the ability to conduct business on 365.

    So if someone can build an app like Outlook that has rich email, calendaring and pure depth of functionality that it has. This would be a massive barrier removal if not in my oppinion the last barrier for mass business FOSS adoption.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Already have provided 1 of many examples: classing. Applying a type to the communication relevant to the business

    This is not an example. What type of communication? Are you classing emails? Are you classing internal documents? Are you classing marketing material? Are you classing internal comms?

    To the process it could be scope, direction, decision ect. This can route, tag, extract, modify and move/copy messages automatically to target services

    This description screams "use a proper ticketing system" to me but, again, I feel like I don't have enough information about the process you're talking about.

    However jumping between apps is

    A badly designed process or the wrong app.

    So if someone can build an app like Outlook that has rich email, calendaring and pure depth of functionality that it has. This would be a massive barrier removal if not in my oppinion the last barrier for mass business FOSS adoption

    Again, this all sounds like you guys are using the wrong tools for the job, but would need to hear more details.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (1 child)

    use a proper ticketing system

    Im done. You have utterly no idea what you a talking about. Fundamental information management concepts are foreign to you.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    And you seem to think that "ticketing system" can only be used for IT incident management. It's like you're not aware of integrations with (or flat out specialised tools for) knowledge management systems, HR systems, CRM systems, asset management systems, and a billion others.

    You still didn't give me any example of a process you had in mind so, yeah, I agree, the discussion is pointless.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Great story never said that.

    Go do a course in basic information management.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    No need, we have a tool for that. One that's decidedly not email....

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    No doubt its a ticket system

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    Yes. It's a system where we can create an entry for every case, monitor it, log all activity, manage who's responsible, who needs to approve, and who owns which parts of the process, automate everything that needs automating, and - in case of an audit - present the entire lifespan of the case, from start to finish to the auditor.

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