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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Safari hell no. Apple shows no sign of disappearing so Safari is safe.

Edge is also tracking you, a lot.

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[+] SickPanda@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I tried switching to Firefox some weeks ago but deinstalled it immediately after realising that it's DNS doesn't work. My ISP is censoring some 🏴‍☠️ websites and I can only visit them by not using my ISP's dns service.

No matter which DNS i selected in the browser settings I always got an error saying that Firefox couldn't reach the DNS. I will stick to Opera GX now 🤷‍♂️

Edit: it's funny how the butthurt Firefox users downvote me for just talking about my experience with the browser.

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[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

you could try setting the DNS over HTTP settings to off. That might solve the issues. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/dns-over-https

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[–] SickPanda@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Didn't work, got the censoring screen of my ISP after doing this.

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[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

How are you changing your dns? In your router or in your system?

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[–] SickPanda@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

In my browser. If I setup Google public dns or cloudfare in Opera GX as DNS it works perfectly fine. The only downside is that I can't access fritz.box anymore, I have to use the IP of my router to be able to access it, I just bookmarked it though.

In Firefox the dns settings dont work at all. If I disable dns I get the censoring screen, if I enable any of the dns settings Firefox always says it can't reach the DNS service.

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[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I have never set my DNS in my browser. Always in the system or in the router. So I don't think I can help you.

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[–] SickPanda@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Thanks for your effort. I will just keep using opera gx, not the best browser in terms of privacy but at least it works out of the box

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[–] nevial@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why don't you just set your DNS system-wide and set your browsers' to "system DNS", though? This shouldn't be a browser issue

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[–] nevial@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

Or, better yet: Define your DNS network-wide on your router (if it does support that, and if not, get a decent router) and let all your devices and browsers use those (that should happen automatically, no need to set that specifically)

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[–] SickPanda@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

system wide changes tend to create system wide problems. Never touch a running system.

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[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Never touch a running system.

What does this even mean? You have to touch it to make changes, upgrade, improve, etc.

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[–] SickPanda@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

The phrase is an old school principle of German server admins. Backups were super expensive back then and rolling back the system after an "upgrade" or "change" did also cost ALOT of money.

The original phrase was altered and used to be a sports thing (from baseball I believe). It used to be "never change a winning team"

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[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Ya, I kinda figured that's what you might mean, and in that case it's entirely wrong.

Long uptimes used to be a point of pride for admins with how long they could keep a single boot session running. But these days a long uptime just means very outdated security patches.

"Never touch a running system" is very much the same vein now. You should constantly be touching the system for system maintenance and such.

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[–] nevial@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

That's not what "never touch a running system" is meant for. It creates a lot more problems (as you experienced yourself) to dabble with DNS on an application-level

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[–] SickPanda@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Nope. First of all I only had one problem and only with Firefox. Second the phrase is also usable in this case. If I change my dns settings in my system (or my router), there is a chance that ALL applications have a problem with resolving URLs. Making most changes only on application layer did save me alot of time which others had to use for troubleshooting.

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[–] nevial@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago

I mean you do you of course, but to me that's not logical at all, it's literally just one line of numbers that you would have to troubleshoot (if at all) and the entire system would be fixed instead of doing that for each application separately

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[–] newline@feddit.nl 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sounds like a typical layer 8 issue to me 🤔

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[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

typical layer 8 issue

🤣 I haven't heard that one in a while!

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[–] SickPanda@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

The same DNS settings work in Opera GX, which means the problem is made by Mozilla

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[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Okay listen... i fully support you in your choice to use the browser that works for you without spending time troubleshooting. But why Opera GX?

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[–] SickPanda@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Because Google Chrome was slowly filling up my hard drive with temp files. I regualry had to delete mutlipe GB of temp files. With Opera GX I have only 200 MB

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[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

It might be a good idea to get a good VPN for any of those sites (even the streaming ones). No hate if you ran into an issue with FF. Every now and then I do see some PCs act weird with FF DNS options. Never able to figure out what causes them to not work correctly while most other PCs are working fine on the same local network. Opera and Opera GX "feel" too "busy" for me personally with just all the random things on the UI and features. I support people using anything that isn't official Chrome at this point.

If you don't already have a VPN, here is a list article with more than a few options and give some basic info on stuff like if they keep logs of IPs and for how long. Some of them also have additional DNS options for removing ads. https://torrentfreak.com/best-vpn-anonymous-no-logging/

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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

firefox uses doh, not regular dns

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[–] SickPanda@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

it still doesn't work though 🤷‍♂️

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[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

it's funny how the butthurt Firefox users downvote me for just talking about my experience with the browser.

Nobody is downvoting you for just talking. They're downvoting you because you very clearly lack knowledge in what you're doing but are blaming it on the browser.

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[–] SickPanda@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

no the browser is the one to blame because the same settings which work in Opera don't work in Firefox. I know I could change my dns system wide but it's a personal preference to only make small changes to a running system.

There are 3 options for dns over https in Firefox and none of them work. disabling it obviously doesn't work too because Firefox uses my ISP's dns service then.

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[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

There are 3 options for dns over https in Firefox and none of them work.

Then you did something wrong.