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[–] 188 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

It’s your own damn fault for trying to get food at fucking Starbucks, the coffee isn’t even good unless you’re at pikes place

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  • [–] 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah, support a local sandwich shop.

    Probably won't be much cheaper but it'll be ten times the quality.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    My family ran a local sandwich shop for years. Here’s the problem.

    If this is downtown, the local sandwich shop isn’t even there, in part because Starbucks helped price them out of being able to rent. Every supermarket now has a sandwich counter too, so local sandwich shops don’t do well in shopping centers either. Fast food has slightly improved their quality over the years so that’s more competitors at the low end. And Subway, period.

    You’re paying for the convenience at Starbucks and in some cases convenience is valuable. If you don’t care about time and can go out of your way to a local sandwich shop, you get better food for less.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Luckily the downtown in the city where I live doesn't allow chain restaurants so I have many options for decently priced food.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That’s a great law if you can get it. Big parts of the NorCal coastline are like that and going there feels like traveling back to a better time.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Idk...local independent shops aren't necessarily cheaper. There is a local coffee shop somewhat by me and it's more expensive than Starbucks. Independent places don't have the advantage of mass scale like the big name fast food and chain places do. When I go independent, I often find myself paying more money for less convenience. So it's not even just convenience that you're sacrificing

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    Yeah that can be true. Not all local businesses are competitively run.

    While it’s true they don’t have the same economies of scale as large corporations, they also don’t have the same overhead. Starbucks coffee stands support a skyscraper full of bureaucrats somewhere. And Starbucks corporate has a stock price to worry about. Local shops don’t have all that crap, and can often get away with charging less. My dad just charged 15% below the corporate shop down the block, as a rule, and it was still profitable.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Coffee will be better as well. Starbucks burns their beans so they can guarantee the same "quality" flavor at every location.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    This I can actually weight in on a bit. They have their recipe under full version control and plant operations can only adjust it slightly without HQ doing an override. Not their air waste handling however, that is under local control.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    what’s different about pike place?

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    Is the coffee actually different there?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No. It’s a local myth that it is.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't think that's a local myth. That sounds like a tourist trap myth.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Not entirely true, the stores that unionized have better tasting coffee in comparison to regular sb

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Nobody goes to Starbucks for good coffee, they go because it's the same everywhere. Sometimes I want to go get a great coffee somewhere they know how to pull a decent shot, and sometimes I want brownish sugarmilk.

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