▲ 871 ▼ Trump admits he didn’t have to tear down East Wing for ballroom, but just wanted to (piefed.cdn.blahaj.zone) submitted 9 months ago by io@piefed.blahaj.zone to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world 131 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-melania-upset-east-wing-demolition-b2862932.html
[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 88 points 9 months ago (5 children) Great, let's tear down a well-preserved historic building in pristine condition for no absolute reason at all! permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] KnowledgeableNip@sh.itjust.works 45 points 9 months ago But God help you if you want to remove a statue honoring a Confederate general permalink fedilink source parent [–] sundray@lemmus.org 20 points 9 months ago (1 child) Typical urban real estate mogul behavior. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago old growth forest: *exists* property developer: we got some undeveloped land here! let's pave it up, might make money having a parking lot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago (1 child) Might as well go back to the 1812 method of renovating at this point. Probably less insulting to the concept of the USA than whatever the fuck this is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] axexrx@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 child) I think the next president should tear down and start from scratch. Eho nlknows what kind of bugs that traitor has let his foreign 'pals' put wherever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 10 points 9 months ago I didn't think about that. Given how lax their opsec is that is a very possibility. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (3 children) The east wing was built in like 1902. It's historic but it's not super duper old and was rebuilt in the 40s to hide a bunker under it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] madjo@feddit.nl 13 points 9 months ago (1 child) Still is historic and well-preserved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Aside from 80 years of constant renovation sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) ngl I don't care about some old building but kind of want a society where thats the biggest problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago I'm with you, the issue is doing it on a whim with no plan to the people's property as he treats it like his own including his pathetic walk of fame. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago Was historic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gumbyyy@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Honestly my biggest issue with this is that it seems to be a pretty clear sign (in addition to the other blatantly obvious signs like various public comments, selling Trump 2028 gear on his website, etc) that he has no intention of ever leaving the White House, term limits be damned. He's just not the type of person to do major work like that if he's expecting to move out and no longer be able to enjoy it himself in a few years. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) Honestly, the white house is a living structure. Its been constantly renovated as long as its stood in order to meet the changing needs of running a country. Its what happens with most old structures, additions get made, more damaged or outdated sections get replaced, and ultimately the structure changes over time. It also makes for some brilliant imagery of what Trump is doing to the country and he knows it. He's both literally and figuratively tearing down and replacing the seat of power, in ways that will be technically difficult, expensive and time consuming to restore or replace. And like any structure that gets a poorly conceived modification, his changes to the country won't be torn down and reverted to their earlier state, they'll most likely be dressed up, the most egregious flaws will be reworked, and some of Trumps changes will remain for a long time without update. Ideally all of Trumps changes will be torn down and a completely new structure will replace them, but that's ambitious, expensive and disruptive, plus if the wrong architect does so the entire structure can be far worse than it started. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) That's actually a well put metaphor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Exatron@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KnowledgeableNip@sh.itjust.works 45 points 9 months ago But God help you if you want to remove a statue honoring a Confederate general permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sundray@lemmus.org 20 points 9 months ago (1 child) Typical urban real estate mogul behavior. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago old growth forest: *exists* property developer: we got some undeveloped land here! let's pave it up, might make money having a parking lot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago old growth forest: *exists* property developer: we got some undeveloped land here! let's pave it up, might make money having a parking lot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago (1 child) Might as well go back to the 1812 method of renovating at this point. Probably less insulting to the concept of the USA than whatever the fuck this is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] axexrx@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 child) I think the next president should tear down and start from scratch. Eho nlknows what kind of bugs that traitor has let his foreign 'pals' put wherever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 10 points 9 months ago I didn't think about that. Given how lax their opsec is that is a very possibility. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 child) I think the next president should tear down and start from scratch. Eho nlknows what kind of bugs that traitor has let his foreign 'pals' put wherever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 10 points 9 months ago I didn't think about that. Given how lax their opsec is that is a very possibility. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 10 points 9 months ago I didn't think about that. Given how lax their opsec is that is a very possibility. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (3 children) The east wing was built in like 1902. It's historic but it's not super duper old and was rebuilt in the 40s to hide a bunker under it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] madjo@feddit.nl 13 points 9 months ago (1 child) Still is historic and well-preserved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Aside from 80 years of constant renovation sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) ngl I don't care about some old building but kind of want a society where thats the biggest problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago I'm with you, the issue is doing it on a whim with no plan to the people's property as he treats it like his own including his pathetic walk of fame. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago Was historic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gumbyyy@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Honestly my biggest issue with this is that it seems to be a pretty clear sign (in addition to the other blatantly obvious signs like various public comments, selling Trump 2028 gear on his website, etc) that he has no intention of ever leaving the White House, term limits be damned. He's just not the type of person to do major work like that if he's expecting to move out and no longer be able to enjoy it himself in a few years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] madjo@feddit.nl 13 points 9 months ago (1 child) Still is historic and well-preserved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Aside from 80 years of constant renovation sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) ngl I don't care about some old building but kind of want a society where thats the biggest problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago I'm with you, the issue is doing it on a whim with no plan to the people's property as he treats it like his own including his pathetic walk of fame. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Aside from 80 years of constant renovation sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) ngl I don't care about some old building but kind of want a society where thats the biggest problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago I'm with you, the issue is doing it on a whim with no plan to the people's property as he treats it like his own including his pathetic walk of fame. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) ngl I don't care about some old building but kind of want a society where thats the biggest problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago I'm with you, the issue is doing it on a whim with no plan to the people's property as he treats it like his own including his pathetic walk of fame. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago I'm with you, the issue is doing it on a whim with no plan to the people's property as he treats it like his own including his pathetic walk of fame. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gumbyyy@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Honestly my biggest issue with this is that it seems to be a pretty clear sign (in addition to the other blatantly obvious signs like various public comments, selling Trump 2028 gear on his website, etc) that he has no intention of ever leaving the White House, term limits be damned. He's just not the type of person to do major work like that if he's expecting to move out and no longer be able to enjoy it himself in a few years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) Honestly, the white house is a living structure. Its been constantly renovated as long as its stood in order to meet the changing needs of running a country. Its what happens with most old structures, additions get made, more damaged or outdated sections get replaced, and ultimately the structure changes over time. It also makes for some brilliant imagery of what Trump is doing to the country and he knows it. He's both literally and figuratively tearing down and replacing the seat of power, in ways that will be technically difficult, expensive and time consuming to restore or replace. And like any structure that gets a poorly conceived modification, his changes to the country won't be torn down and reverted to their earlier state, they'll most likely be dressed up, the most egregious flaws will be reworked, and some of Trumps changes will remain for a long time without update. Ideally all of Trumps changes will be torn down and a completely new structure will replace them, but that's ambitious, expensive and disruptive, plus if the wrong architect does so the entire structure can be far worse than it started. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) That's actually a well put metaphor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Exatron@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) That's actually a well put metaphor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Exatron@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago permalink fedilink source parent