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Democrats: Stop dividing the left (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

The large majority of communists hold similar views, especially considering everything I said was factually true. Communists do exist, that shouldn't be "incredible" to you. I am from the US Empire, yes, I do org work, and have spoken with people from former and existing socialist states.

Not really sure what you're trying to do, mockery doesn't invalidate any of the points I've made or the sources I bring up, it just gives me the opportunity for others to see that anti-communists don't really have any points of their own to bring to the table.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    You being from the US makes a lot of sense considering how absolutely clueless you are to what really is going on in the countries you're talking about.

    I lived through the tail end of the USSR's "communism", my parents lived IN that.

    The reality of it is: USSR was a totalitarian dictatorship. There was nothing communist about it. Saying it was communist is just being extremely naive and ignorant. I mean, they themselves were always talking about how they're "on the road to reaching communism", they themselves didn't think of the USSR as communist.

    But even if we assume it was "not yet communist, but socialist" - it's still bullshit, because, again, it was a totalitarian dictatorship.

    And China? How can you see all the billionaires and CEOs of privately held companies and say "yeah, that's socialism where the workers own the means of production"?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    The large majority of those who lived in the USSR regret its fall. When socialism was ended, poverty skyrocketed and the economy collapsed. The USSR was socialist, I never once said they reached communism (no matter how much you love inventing my words). It was not a "totalitarian dictatorship," no matter how much you keep asserting that it was. I know people that think Donald Trump was sent by God to save the world, anecdotes don't mean anything.

    The PRC has a socialist market economy. It isn't devoid of private property, but public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy. It's in the developing stage of socialism:

    None of your points were based on anything I said, or anything other than your anecdotes. You aren't being serious here. I've spoken to people with the opposite opinion from you who lived in the USSR for longer than you have, and that isn't hard evidence either.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Russians are stupid animals that have been brainwashed and can't think of their politics

    You might as well bring out the calipers already!

    It is very funny that you decided to stop arguing because cowbee is "delusional" and their belief stems from years and years of misinformation. They provided their sources while you only used wikipedia throughout this whole thing and personal anecdotes.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Sorry buddy, but you're wrong, and trying to brush facts you don't like under the rug by saying Russians are too stupid to know that their lives were better under socialism. Wikipedia is extremely biased, I can link sources like Soviet Democracy by Pat Sloan that go far more in-depth and illustrate the democratic procedures of the soviet union.

    As for all the rest - again, I just don’t have the time to unwrap this because your beliefs seem to stem from years, and years of misinformation. Might as well end this here.

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