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Olympics organisers moving towards blanket ban on transgender women from women's sport (news.sky.com)
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The development comes after a presentation to the International Olympic Committee by its medical chief, which highlighted the potential physical advantages of competing in women's sport after being born male.

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[–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

no, im not talking about the gender spectrum, the snopes article WHICH YOU LINKED is talking about intersex people. people in between one sex or the other. who might fall closer to one side or the other for one reason or another. you know. a spectrum!

the article WHICH YOU LINKED describes in detail why chromosomes don't work as a binary way to define sex. the article WHICH YOU LINKED explains why you shouldn't take ait aoudia at his word. YOU LINKED IT, but then it explained why none of this intersex talk even applies to khelif in the first place, and YOU are now trying to discredit it. genuinely i hope you're a bot of some sort because these mental gymnastics are way too good for the human division

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  • [+] -10 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I linked to it because it's a sympathetic source that you would actually read. I realized that it was mealy-mouthed about gender vs sex when I linked it, but had hoped that you could see that even a sympathetic take acknowledges that Khelif is male.

    Intersex is a confusing term, and it has confused you. That's OK though! Sex is still not a spectrum. Khelif is male due to producing the smaller of two (i.e. binary) gamete sizes in humans, which is how sex is defined. 5αR2D is a male DSD, which means Khelif is ineligible for women's sports. That's what men's and open leagues are for though!

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It doesn't acknowledge Khelif as male in any way at all, not even in the completely irrelevant idiot way you're pretending sex is defined. Read the thing for fucks sake lmao

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Glad I can help you learn something today! Sex is defined by gamete size. Unfortunately, disputing like you've done is unscientific. The linked article that goes over the definition is a great place to start for a beginner though!

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I know I told you to find someone else to read for you, but I won't be that person, sorry. However, rest assured, the Wikipedia article you linked also doesn't claim what you say it does. Have a shitty day!

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  • [+] -6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I'll help you out with the first sentence!

    Sex is the biological trait that determines whether a sexually reproducing organism produces male or female gametes.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    "Male and female" were synonyms for "large and small," huh? I hope you manage to get past the first sentence of an article one day

    Before you come at me with the end of that paragraph, try reading the end of it too. Still not a binary!

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago

    Let me know where you're misunderstanding it and I'll do my best to help break it down!

    Sex is binary because there are two sizes of gametes, large and small. Those two are the only options, and thus sex is a binary. In humans, sex is determined by chromosomes, but defined by gamete size. Variations in phenotype and genotype are variations within a sex.

    You might be confused by the term "hermaphrodite". It's possible for some organisms to produce both gamete sizes! But sex is still a binary, because you'll notice they produce both sizes. Some animals can even change sex during their lifetimes or have their sex determined by temperature while they develop 🤯 It's true! But humans aren't like that, we're sexually dimorphic. Our bodies are organized around producing one or the other of two gamete sizes for our entire lives.

    Now you might be wondering why we care about defining sex. Why bother? 🤔 The answer is because it's the only defining trait that works across an enormous swath of the animal kingdom! Biology is hard and messy and it's amazing we found such a handy distinction. Some organisms such as fungi have mating types instead of sex, but in anisogamous species we define sex by gamete size because it's the only coherent definition.

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