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Democrats: Stop dividing the left (lemmy.ml)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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[–] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm wondering when the rest of you guys are going to realize that electoralism is a huge waste of time, effort and energy. Elections are a distraction to make us think we can effect change through the system. But the problem IS the system. There is only one way forward, and it's through a revolution that abolishes the entire existing structures of power.

We need to accept this reality, so we can actually start the long process of how to achieve that.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I think you're correct. But if so, that means a lot of people are going to die and even after they die, we have no guarantee that the next power structure will be any better.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    The death toll of capitalism is much, much higher than any of us can imagine. We should aim to have the most peaceful revolution possible, but we also should be realistic, and I know for a fact that the ruling class aren't going to go without a fight. We can starve them out, I believe, for the most part, but yeah, there will definitely be death and suffering, I can't deny that. But a lot of people are dying NOW. And for nothing. We can at least die trying to make a better world. That's something I'm willing to die for.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Socialist states have had a great track record in improving living conditions as compared to previous systems.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, absolutely.

    My fear is whether Americans will choose socialism right now. I'm in a very queer, anarchist bubble and I'm not sure how to tell how popular this sort of thought is.

    My concern is how thoroughly Americans have rooted socialists out of power and how all of our media will insist that we need more fascism, not less.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    As the spoils of imperialism dry up, conditions are getting worse in the States. The task of socialists is to organize, so that revolution can be steered in a positive, unified direction if it comes to pass. We cannot vote for socialism without capital using the state to crush that movement, but we can learn from successful revolutionaries and modify what worked for them to suit our conditions.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I want to believe that things can be changed electorally, but I know that it wouldn't come from anyone near power currently. Mamdani is the greatest hope right now, but he's ultimately going to be in an ivory tower. He's also been very clear that he's being elected to run the ivory tower of America, so I'm not downplaying neither the significance or his awareness of the role.

    There's no argument that Republicans have found a number of large exploits in the system that they are currently manipulating to "win" the US federal government. Whether or not such a system is theoretically capable of being repaired is up for debate, but it sure as hell isn't going to happen at the hands of fucking Democrats.

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