▲ 471 ▼ Republicans push to strip Zohran Mamdani of US citizenship. Is it possible? (www.aljazeera.com) submitted 9 months ago by Teknevra@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 97 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (2 children) Their point is that the US practices white glove socialism for the rich and rugged merciless capitalism for the poor permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bss03@infosec.pub 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) The merging of government and corporate power structures has more in common with fascism than with authoritarian communism or liberal libertarian socialism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) It's more just that while they're calling Mamdani a communist, at the same time they're doing the thing that is literally the single most Communist thing a government can do: have the state gain direct ownership or control of the means of production. Communism is many things depending on where, when, and who you ask. But the bare minimum, the common denominator under all forms? State owns of the means of production. And here's Trump literally seizing the means of production. Not just giving out grants or loans, but literally taking a permanent equity stake in a major international company. That is the literal, most basic definition of a Communist action. If literally seizing the means of production isn't Communist, what the hell is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago Except communism isn't when the state seizes the means of production, it's when the workers seize the means of production. Anarchism, for example, is a form of communism that specifically calls for the abolition of the state. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bss03@infosec.pub 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) The merging of government and corporate power structures has more in common with fascism than with authoritarian communism or liberal libertarian socialism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) It's more just that while they're calling Mamdani a communist, at the same time they're doing the thing that is literally the single most Communist thing a government can do: have the state gain direct ownership or control of the means of production. Communism is many things depending on where, when, and who you ask. But the bare minimum, the common denominator under all forms? State owns of the means of production. And here's Trump literally seizing the means of production. Not just giving out grants or loans, but literally taking a permanent equity stake in a major international company. That is the literal, most basic definition of a Communist action. If literally seizing the means of production isn't Communist, what the hell is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago Except communism isn't when the state seizes the means of production, it's when the workers seize the means of production. Anarchism, for example, is a form of communism that specifically calls for the abolition of the state. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago Except communism isn't when the state seizes the means of production, it's when the workers seize the means of production. Anarchism, for example, is a form of communism that specifically calls for the abolition of the state. permalink fedilink source parent