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How to Actually Clean Install Windows 11 (www.wired.com)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Basically, install Windows as you normally would, but when asked for Time and Currency format, select English (World) instead of your country.

Then let the installer do its thing. Eventually, you will see a window with an ice cream cone on the floor with the words “Something went wrong” and the error message “OOBEREGION.” This cryptic message means that the “out of box experience” (OOBE) didn't launch because it didn't know which region to launch.

Click Skip, though, and Windows will install just fine. You won't be prompted to buy Microsoft 365, you won't be prompted to pay for a OneDrive subscription, and your Start menu won't be cluttered with apps.

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[–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

ive heard this for years and i always laugh, "there is nothing windows does that linux doesn't!" yeah, totally man.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    name one thing. Besides bluescreens.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Sure, games. Proton/wine came a long ways but it's far from perfect or has the same depth of software as native windows. Also potentially having to mess with lutris can be annoying. Graphics drivers are also better on windows too. If you'd like to try to argue this just look at protondb. Is it a 100% compatible with every title? No? Hmmm.... Not to mention proton triggering some games anti cheats.

    It's also why there are several memes including the one posted just yesterday or the day before about "cheating" on Linux with windows for gaming. Plus the whole standard advice ive seen on Lemmy being "Linux for daily driving, windows partition for gaming." Now again, why would that be the standard advice? https://lemmy.world/post/5834366

    ^---thread in question where Linux gamers commiserate their difficulties getting certain games to run on their Linux systems.

    Linux is fine, windows is okay if you disable the telemetry, just use what ever os and software you want but it's really silly to make false claims.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sure, games.

    That's not something Windows can do better. That's developers targeting a release only for Windows. Which is exactly the point I made in my original comment that you responded to. Games that have a native release (and even wine, sometimes) typically run faster on a Linux machine than on Windows, because there's less OS garbage overhead.

    Graphics drivers are also better on windows too.

    The only graphics drivers that are "better" are those for new cards when the manufacturer - again - targeted the windows platform.

    The whole philosophy of device drivers is unfathomably better on Linux, because it works with chipset drivers and doesn't give a shit about which vendor a specific chipset came from, as long as the API is compatible. Also, almost everything that's not brand new hardware works out of the box on a vanilla install of e.g. debian (and definitely Linux Mint) whereas on Windows have fun installing drivers that come with tons of crapware.

    As you said yourself: it's silly to make false claims. Just because some hardware vendors choose to build hardware for which they tailor drivers to windows, that's not a virtue or merit of windows, that's an abuse of monopoly if anything.

    A vendor could also release a new graphics card with an internal electronic black box, release a linux driver and then say "haha, look, Windows can't support that". Except that with Linux, at some point, someone will decode the interface and get a working driver in a release somewhere.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    You can make up all the reasons you want, the end result is the same. People use windows because the product works better and more reliably. If you want to split hairs be my guest but every metric windows wins against Linux in gaming. It has a higher user base, more software, better support, and as you said even entire businesses developing stuff for it because businesses go where the customers are. Sure you can say "oh they just greased some palms", but if you knew anything about the gaming world that doesn't mean jack shit if your games and hardware sucks. The graveyard of failed hardware and software prove that. As much as I love steam and I'm glad the steam deck is having success every other Linux based hardware attempt they've come up with has failed hard like their console and steam link. And what's your point about some games running better? Some games run worse too, beyond the fact your statement admits not every game runs better, how does that make Linux superior? Your example about companies also doesn't disprove anything because a company can do that...but hasn't in the entire 40+ years of Linux existence...curious isn't it? Also you can program driver's for windows too for devices lol, how else do you think people tinker with stuff? I mean I'm using a PS3 eye as a webcam on my Windows PC rn with custom community made drivers just like Linux does .....

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