β² 243 βΌ Installing a browser in the big 2025 (gregtech.eu) submitted 9 months ago by tsugu@gregtech.eu to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 60 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] tsugu@gregtech.eu [S] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children) No thanks, I like snaps permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 31 points 9 months ago (2 children) I don't like them, but I'd like to remind my fellow Canonical-Haters to not become User-Haters instead. It's okay to have preferences, but let's not antagonise each other. That said, flatpak > compiling from source > writing from scratch > writing with binary editor > not having it at all > snap permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] tsugu@gregtech.eu [S] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) That is pretty funny. However the "not having it at all" mfs suddenly reconsider when it's the only way to install an app. I for example maintain the 4K Video Downloader Plus snap and the only other installation method is a .deb. In the stats I can see many other distros than just Ubuntu. I think it's the ideal packaging format for apps that should stay up to date at all time, even if the system isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 point 9 months ago However the "not having it at all" mfs suddenly reconsider when it's the only way to install an app. I mean, if you want the app badly enough, I guess "not having it" slips down in the ranking. I have yet to find a single app I wanted enough to put snap on my system though. So far, I've found Flatpaks, AppImage, RPM packages or source code for everything I need. Look, I don't wanna argue about the advantages or disadvantages of it. My beef isn't with snap as a technology, but with Canonical's practices, and rather than railing against them, I decided to skip town and find some distro where I'm not fighting my vendor. permalink fedilink source parent [β] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but I love your snap hate π€£ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) Honestly, most of my hate is with the sn-apt switchup where using apt would install snaps instead of the debs I naively assumed I'd get. I don't wanna argue about the format or the utility of a single centrally maintained package store. I also still think Ubuntu is a good entry point for Linux newbies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago I hate that apt installs something other than debs so much. That's super annoying. And I agree, I don't really care but don't change expectations, if ubuntu thinks snap is better, then transition to snap with its own toolset, don't bastardize the current toolset. permalink fedilink source parent [β] gsdsam@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Genuine question; what is it about them that appeals to you? I used them for a while as a few things on kubuntu defaulted to snap but after a while I kept running into different issues that don't occur on the flathub/deb counterparts so I've cut them out for the most part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tsugu@gregtech.eu [S] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) I like Ubuntu and related technologies around it so when I wanted to learn Linux packaging I went for snap. It turned out to be not as hard as I thought, and from my experience they run just fine. And are capable of packaging more types of apps than flatpak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I think their update model is actually great. People are super hesitant to have apps auto update but its important to push out security updates quickly to minimise damage. It can be easily disabled if you insist on manually updating. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tsugu@gregtech.eu [S] 2 points 9 months ago I can confirm the auto updates work. When I push a new version, all devices start using it within days. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 31 points 9 months ago (2 children) I don't like them, but I'd like to remind my fellow Canonical-Haters to not become User-Haters instead. It's okay to have preferences, but let's not antagonise each other. That said, flatpak > compiling from source > writing from scratch > writing with binary editor > not having it at all > snap permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] tsugu@gregtech.eu [S] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) That is pretty funny. However the "not having it at all" mfs suddenly reconsider when it's the only way to install an app. I for example maintain the 4K Video Downloader Plus snap and the only other installation method is a .deb. In the stats I can see many other distros than just Ubuntu. I think it's the ideal packaging format for apps that should stay up to date at all time, even if the system isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 point 9 months ago However the "not having it at all" mfs suddenly reconsider when it's the only way to install an app. I mean, if you want the app badly enough, I guess "not having it" slips down in the ranking. I have yet to find a single app I wanted enough to put snap on my system though. So far, I've found Flatpaks, AppImage, RPM packages or source code for everything I need. Look, I don't wanna argue about the advantages or disadvantages of it. My beef isn't with snap as a technology, but with Canonical's practices, and rather than railing against them, I decided to skip town and find some distro where I'm not fighting my vendor. permalink fedilink source parent [β] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but I love your snap hate π€£ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) Honestly, most of my hate is with the sn-apt switchup where using apt would install snaps instead of the debs I naively assumed I'd get. I don't wanna argue about the format or the utility of a single centrally maintained package store. I also still think Ubuntu is a good entry point for Linux newbies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago I hate that apt installs something other than debs so much. That's super annoying. And I agree, I don't really care but don't change expectations, if ubuntu thinks snap is better, then transition to snap with its own toolset, don't bastardize the current toolset. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tsugu@gregtech.eu [S] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) That is pretty funny. However the "not having it at all" mfs suddenly reconsider when it's the only way to install an app. I for example maintain the 4K Video Downloader Plus snap and the only other installation method is a .deb. In the stats I can see many other distros than just Ubuntu. I think it's the ideal packaging format for apps that should stay up to date at all time, even if the system isn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 point 9 months ago However the "not having it at all" mfs suddenly reconsider when it's the only way to install an app. I mean, if you want the app badly enough, I guess "not having it" slips down in the ranking. I have yet to find a single app I wanted enough to put snap on my system though. So far, I've found Flatpaks, AppImage, RPM packages or source code for everything I need. Look, I don't wanna argue about the advantages or disadvantages of it. My beef isn't with snap as a technology, but with Canonical's practices, and rather than railing against them, I decided to skip town and find some distro where I'm not fighting my vendor. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 point 9 months ago However the "not having it at all" mfs suddenly reconsider when it's the only way to install an app. I mean, if you want the app badly enough, I guess "not having it" slips down in the ranking. I have yet to find a single app I wanted enough to put snap on my system though. So far, I've found Flatpaks, AppImage, RPM packages or source code for everything I need. Look, I don't wanna argue about the advantages or disadvantages of it. My beef isn't with snap as a technology, but with Canonical's practices, and rather than railing against them, I decided to skip town and find some distro where I'm not fighting my vendor. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but I love your snap hate π€£ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) Honestly, most of my hate is with the sn-apt switchup where using apt would install snaps instead of the debs I naively assumed I'd get. I don't wanna argue about the format or the utility of a single centrally maintained package store. I also still think Ubuntu is a good entry point for Linux newbies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago I hate that apt installs something other than debs so much. That's super annoying. And I agree, I don't really care but don't change expectations, if ubuntu thinks snap is better, then transition to snap with its own toolset, don't bastardize the current toolset. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) Honestly, most of my hate is with the sn-apt switchup where using apt would install snaps instead of the debs I naively assumed I'd get. I don't wanna argue about the format or the utility of a single centrally maintained package store. I also still think Ubuntu is a good entry point for Linux newbies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago I hate that apt installs something other than debs so much. That's super annoying. And I agree, I don't really care but don't change expectations, if ubuntu thinks snap is better, then transition to snap with its own toolset, don't bastardize the current toolset. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago I hate that apt installs something other than debs so much. That's super annoying. And I agree, I don't really care but don't change expectations, if ubuntu thinks snap is better, then transition to snap with its own toolset, don't bastardize the current toolset. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] gsdsam@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Genuine question; what is it about them that appeals to you? I used them for a while as a few things on kubuntu defaulted to snap but after a while I kept running into different issues that don't occur on the flathub/deb counterparts so I've cut them out for the most part. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tsugu@gregtech.eu [S] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) I like Ubuntu and related technologies around it so when I wanted to learn Linux packaging I went for snap. It turned out to be not as hard as I thought, and from my experience they run just fine. And are capable of packaging more types of apps than flatpak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I think their update model is actually great. People are super hesitant to have apps auto update but its important to push out security updates quickly to minimise damage. It can be easily disabled if you insist on manually updating. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tsugu@gregtech.eu [S] 2 points 9 months ago I can confirm the auto updates work. When I push a new version, all devices start using it within days. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tsugu@gregtech.eu [S] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) I like Ubuntu and related technologies around it so when I wanted to learn Linux packaging I went for snap. It turned out to be not as hard as I thought, and from my experience they run just fine. And are capable of packaging more types of apps than flatpak. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I think their update model is actually great. People are super hesitant to have apps auto update but its important to push out security updates quickly to minimise damage. It can be easily disabled if you insist on manually updating. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tsugu@gregtech.eu [S] 2 points 9 months ago I can confirm the auto updates work. When I push a new version, all devices start using it within days. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) I think their update model is actually great. People are super hesitant to have apps auto update but its important to push out security updates quickly to minimise damage. It can be easily disabled if you insist on manually updating. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] tsugu@gregtech.eu [S] 2 points 9 months ago I can confirm the auto updates work. When I push a new version, all devices start using it within days. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tsugu@gregtech.eu [S] 2 points 9 months ago I can confirm the auto updates work. When I push a new version, all devices start using it within days. permalink fedilink source parent
