▲ 557 ▼ ICE Barbie Deports Trump-Fanatic Cuban Immigrant to Africa (web.archive.org) submitted 9 months ago by Curmuffin@fedia.io to c/leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world 150 comments fedilink hide all child comments MAGA devotee Roberto Mosquera thought Trump would unify the country. Now he’s 8,000 miles away.
[+] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 82 points 9 months ago (2 children) My wife is Hispanic, and most of her family that doesn't speak English, all love Trump. Apparently, when they translate him speaking into Spanish, they paraphrase everything he says, just to make him sound sane. Her aunt and father would both send her videos, where he's rambling about some stupid, crazy shit, and the Spanish translation is completely different than what's coming out of his mouth. It makes him sound normal. She's had to explain to them so many times, that what they're hearing, is not what he's actually saying...but when she translates it directly for them, they don't always believe her. Why would they? They can't believe anyone would say that, because it's all nonsense. They really have no idea just how stupid and dangerous he actually is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago Those translators need to be muted and deafened ya know what shatter their hands irrevocably while your at it. They shouldnt have the ability to lie in such a way. permalink fedilink source parent [–] toofpic@lemmy.world 56 points 9 months ago (3 children) I'm not from US, but "I hate mexicans, we have to kick them out, and let's build a wall against them" is pretty self-explanatory, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago (2 children) You have to understand how many Cubans hate all other Hispanics. They consider themselves white. The "good ones" if you will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (1 child) It's not even exclusive to Cubans. Pick any migrant group and the conservative members of that group hate the idea of people who were in identical circumstances to their family when they migrated getting the same chances. Fuck your got mine the entire way down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* Exhibit A: these types of "legitimate" Filipino-Americans who'll just narc anyone fresh off the boat and not having permanent residency. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago Yeah exactly, and it's fucked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 26 points 9 months ago I’m from the US. Yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jonne@infosec.pub 12 points 9 months ago* (1 child) There was a lot of talk about 'recent immigrants', while the voting population is older immigrants that got citizenship by going through the process (or people that lived on land that became the US under them), and they also hate illegal immigration because they did it 'the right way' and are the reason police and border patrol keeps hassling them. Obviously it's the wrong way of thinking about the issue of you correctly identify that it's basically pure racism, but I could see how you could be led there if you're a low information voter (especially if the TV station you watch is owned by a Trump ally). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (2 children) if you're a low information voter Ignorance, whether it stems from laziness or is willful, is on them, and we are all suffering now as a consequence of their ignorance. Trump showed exactly who he was to anyone paying even an iota of attention before he was voted into office, and I have little empathy for those who now say "we didn't know". For fucks sake, he bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, and everyone in the country had this piece of information before he was voted into office. What more information does a person need to judge his character? He's a shit person and anyone who voted for him did so because they didn't think the leopards would eat their face, giving zero empathy to all the people harmed by Trump, including those ripped off by his his fake Trump University, fraud foundation, etc., etc., etc., etc. "Low information" is no excuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago You're completely correct in all respects. However, we still need to understand it in order to fight it. Their playbook is not very thick. They keep doing all the same shit, and we haven't adapted. Remember after the Trump impeachments the Republicans were saying "impeach" left and right about everything? They wanted to water down the term and the concept. They want to say everything the Democrats might say ideally before they say it in order to take all the power out of it. It's part of the reason Dems seem feckless, because by the time they say something, the right has already been beating that drum for weeks. Even if it's a terrible drum for them that holds no water. Because the point isn't for them to say what they're saying; it's to make sure the Dems aren't heard when they say the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jonne@infosec.pub 3 points 9 months ago* Unfortunately, the majority of the electorate is that sort of person, so you need to appeal to them. You've got to win the voters you have, not the ones you wish you had. That's why you need to keep your messaging simple (not saying that's an excuse to not do the work and actually have policies). permalink fedilink source parent [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago Read https://www.latinosfortrump.com/ It spells it all out right there in shiny propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hanrahan@piefed.social 16 points 9 months ago (1 child) Politicans lie and misdirect but why take up with the one that says they want to deliberately hurt minorities ? Why becase you're an asshole. They all had a good look at this freak during 1.0 and choose him...again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 9 months ago (2 children) They literally, openly posted their step by step plan for anyone and everyone to read. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub 4 points 9 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -3 points 9 months ago Hey look another person who's immune to propaganda. I'm sure you are wrong about something. Massacre at tiannenmen square maybe? Thats always a good one. How about tank man being run over? Hope you got your facts straight! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago Hispanics are by far the largest immigrant population to the US. When MAGA was chanting and holding signs saying "Mass deportations now", it was obvious that Hispanics would be the ones affected the most since they are the largest group. It's not rocket science. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago Yep, concerted propaganda campaigns. They could not have won if Hispanics were united against Trump. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rayyy@piefed.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) If only they hadn't let themselves to be immersed in the Republican/Fox information silo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -4 points 9 months ago "Why did they choose to be propaganda'ed though?" "Why did the woman let someone assault her?" "Why did the victim allow themselves to be shot from 300 yards away?" permalink fedilink source parent [–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 months ago Yeah, we have a few newcomers in the shop here, and conservatives here always tell them it's imperative to vote conservative or they will lose their rights etc... They would have no idea what the implications are if I would not chime in and let them know if they do so they vote for the people who want to kick them out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 82 points 9 months ago (2 children) My wife is Hispanic, and most of her family that doesn't speak English, all love Trump. Apparently, when they translate him speaking into Spanish, they paraphrase everything he says, just to make him sound sane. Her aunt and father would both send her videos, where he's rambling about some stupid, crazy shit, and the Spanish translation is completely different than what's coming out of his mouth. It makes him sound normal. She's had to explain to them so many times, that what they're hearing, is not what he's actually saying...but when she translates it directly for them, they don't always believe her. Why would they? They can't believe anyone would say that, because it's all nonsense. They really have no idea just how stupid and dangerous he actually is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago Those translators need to be muted and deafened ya know what shatter their hands irrevocably while your at it. They shouldnt have the ability to lie in such a way. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago Those translators need to be muted and deafened ya know what shatter their hands irrevocably while your at it. They shouldnt have the ability to lie in such a way. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 56 points 9 months ago (3 children) I'm not from US, but "I hate mexicans, we have to kick them out, and let's build a wall against them" is pretty self-explanatory, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago (2 children) You have to understand how many Cubans hate all other Hispanics. They consider themselves white. The "good ones" if you will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (1 child) It's not even exclusive to Cubans. Pick any migrant group and the conservative members of that group hate the idea of people who were in identical circumstances to their family when they migrated getting the same chances. Fuck your got mine the entire way down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* Exhibit A: these types of "legitimate" Filipino-Americans who'll just narc anyone fresh off the boat and not having permanent residency. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago Yeah exactly, and it's fucked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 26 points 9 months ago I’m from the US. Yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jonne@infosec.pub 12 points 9 months ago* (1 child) There was a lot of talk about 'recent immigrants', while the voting population is older immigrants that got citizenship by going through the process (or people that lived on land that became the US under them), and they also hate illegal immigration because they did it 'the right way' and are the reason police and border patrol keeps hassling them. Obviously it's the wrong way of thinking about the issue of you correctly identify that it's basically pure racism, but I could see how you could be led there if you're a low information voter (especially if the TV station you watch is owned by a Trump ally). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (2 children) if you're a low information voter Ignorance, whether it stems from laziness or is willful, is on them, and we are all suffering now as a consequence of their ignorance. Trump showed exactly who he was to anyone paying even an iota of attention before he was voted into office, and I have little empathy for those who now say "we didn't know". For fucks sake, he bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, and everyone in the country had this piece of information before he was voted into office. What more information does a person need to judge his character? He's a shit person and anyone who voted for him did so because they didn't think the leopards would eat their face, giving zero empathy to all the people harmed by Trump, including those ripped off by his his fake Trump University, fraud foundation, etc., etc., etc., etc. "Low information" is no excuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago You're completely correct in all respects. However, we still need to understand it in order to fight it. Their playbook is not very thick. They keep doing all the same shit, and we haven't adapted. Remember after the Trump impeachments the Republicans were saying "impeach" left and right about everything? They wanted to water down the term and the concept. They want to say everything the Democrats might say ideally before they say it in order to take all the power out of it. It's part of the reason Dems seem feckless, because by the time they say something, the right has already been beating that drum for weeks. Even if it's a terrible drum for them that holds no water. Because the point isn't for them to say what they're saying; it's to make sure the Dems aren't heard when they say the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jonne@infosec.pub 3 points 9 months ago* Unfortunately, the majority of the electorate is that sort of person, so you need to appeal to them. You've got to win the voters you have, not the ones you wish you had. That's why you need to keep your messaging simple (not saying that's an excuse to not do the work and actually have policies). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago (2 children) You have to understand how many Cubans hate all other Hispanics. They consider themselves white. The "good ones" if you will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (1 child) It's not even exclusive to Cubans. Pick any migrant group and the conservative members of that group hate the idea of people who were in identical circumstances to their family when they migrated getting the same chances. Fuck your got mine the entire way down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* Exhibit A: these types of "legitimate" Filipino-Americans who'll just narc anyone fresh off the boat and not having permanent residency. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago Yeah exactly, and it's fucked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (1 child) It's not even exclusive to Cubans. Pick any migrant group and the conservative members of that group hate the idea of people who were in identical circumstances to their family when they migrated getting the same chances. Fuck your got mine the entire way down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* Exhibit A: these types of "legitimate" Filipino-Americans who'll just narc anyone fresh off the boat and not having permanent residency. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* Exhibit A: these types of "legitimate" Filipino-Americans who'll just narc anyone fresh off the boat and not having permanent residency. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago Yeah exactly, and it's fucked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 26 points 9 months ago I’m from the US. Yes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jonne@infosec.pub 12 points 9 months ago* (1 child) There was a lot of talk about 'recent immigrants', while the voting population is older immigrants that got citizenship by going through the process (or people that lived on land that became the US under them), and they also hate illegal immigration because they did it 'the right way' and are the reason police and border patrol keeps hassling them. Obviously it's the wrong way of thinking about the issue of you correctly identify that it's basically pure racism, but I could see how you could be led there if you're a low information voter (especially if the TV station you watch is owned by a Trump ally). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (2 children) if you're a low information voter Ignorance, whether it stems from laziness or is willful, is on them, and we are all suffering now as a consequence of their ignorance. Trump showed exactly who he was to anyone paying even an iota of attention before he was voted into office, and I have little empathy for those who now say "we didn't know". For fucks sake, he bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, and everyone in the country had this piece of information before he was voted into office. What more information does a person need to judge his character? He's a shit person and anyone who voted for him did so because they didn't think the leopards would eat their face, giving zero empathy to all the people harmed by Trump, including those ripped off by his his fake Trump University, fraud foundation, etc., etc., etc., etc. "Low information" is no excuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago You're completely correct in all respects. However, we still need to understand it in order to fight it. Their playbook is not very thick. They keep doing all the same shit, and we haven't adapted. Remember after the Trump impeachments the Republicans were saying "impeach" left and right about everything? They wanted to water down the term and the concept. They want to say everything the Democrats might say ideally before they say it in order to take all the power out of it. It's part of the reason Dems seem feckless, because by the time they say something, the right has already been beating that drum for weeks. Even if it's a terrible drum for them that holds no water. Because the point isn't for them to say what they're saying; it's to make sure the Dems aren't heard when they say the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jonne@infosec.pub 3 points 9 months ago* Unfortunately, the majority of the electorate is that sort of person, so you need to appeal to them. You've got to win the voters you have, not the ones you wish you had. That's why you need to keep your messaging simple (not saying that's an excuse to not do the work and actually have policies). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (2 children) if you're a low information voter Ignorance, whether it stems from laziness or is willful, is on them, and we are all suffering now as a consequence of their ignorance. Trump showed exactly who he was to anyone paying even an iota of attention before he was voted into office, and I have little empathy for those who now say "we didn't know". For fucks sake, he bragged about grabbing women by the pussy, and everyone in the country had this piece of information before he was voted into office. What more information does a person need to judge his character? He's a shit person and anyone who voted for him did so because they didn't think the leopards would eat their face, giving zero empathy to all the people harmed by Trump, including those ripped off by his his fake Trump University, fraud foundation, etc., etc., etc., etc. "Low information" is no excuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Serinus@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago You're completely correct in all respects. However, we still need to understand it in order to fight it. Their playbook is not very thick. They keep doing all the same shit, and we haven't adapted. Remember after the Trump impeachments the Republicans were saying "impeach" left and right about everything? They wanted to water down the term and the concept. They want to say everything the Democrats might say ideally before they say it in order to take all the power out of it. It's part of the reason Dems seem feckless, because by the time they say something, the right has already been beating that drum for weeks. Even if it's a terrible drum for them that holds no water. Because the point isn't for them to say what they're saying; it's to make sure the Dems aren't heard when they say the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jonne@infosec.pub 3 points 9 months ago* Unfortunately, the majority of the electorate is that sort of person, so you need to appeal to them. You've got to win the voters you have, not the ones you wish you had. That's why you need to keep your messaging simple (not saying that's an excuse to not do the work and actually have policies). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago You're completely correct in all respects. However, we still need to understand it in order to fight it. Their playbook is not very thick. They keep doing all the same shit, and we haven't adapted. Remember after the Trump impeachments the Republicans were saying "impeach" left and right about everything? They wanted to water down the term and the concept. They want to say everything the Democrats might say ideally before they say it in order to take all the power out of it. It's part of the reason Dems seem feckless, because by the time they say something, the right has already been beating that drum for weeks. Even if it's a terrible drum for them that holds no water. Because the point isn't for them to say what they're saying; it's to make sure the Dems aren't heard when they say the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jonne@infosec.pub 3 points 9 months ago* Unfortunately, the majority of the electorate is that sort of person, so you need to appeal to them. You've got to win the voters you have, not the ones you wish you had. That's why you need to keep your messaging simple (not saying that's an excuse to not do the work and actually have policies). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago Read https://www.latinosfortrump.com/ It spells it all out right there in shiny propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 16 points 9 months ago (1 child) Politicans lie and misdirect but why take up with the one that says they want to deliberately hurt minorities ? Why becase you're an asshole. They all had a good look at this freak during 1.0 and choose him...again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 9 months ago (2 children) They literally, openly posted their step by step plan for anyone and everyone to read. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub 4 points 9 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -3 points 9 months ago Hey look another person who's immune to propaganda. I'm sure you are wrong about something. Massacre at tiannenmen square maybe? Thats always a good one. How about tank man being run over? Hope you got your facts straight! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -3 points 9 months ago Hey look another person who's immune to propaganda. I'm sure you are wrong about something. Massacre at tiannenmen square maybe? Thats always a good one. How about tank man being run over? Hope you got your facts straight! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago Hispanics are by far the largest immigrant population to the US. When MAGA was chanting and holding signs saying "Mass deportations now", it was obvious that Hispanics would be the ones affected the most since they are the largest group. It's not rocket science. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago Yep, concerted propaganda campaigns. They could not have won if Hispanics were united against Trump. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rayyy@piefed.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) If only they hadn't let themselves to be immersed in the Republican/Fox information silo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -4 points 9 months ago "Why did they choose to be propaganda'ed though?" "Why did the woman let someone assault her?" "Why did the victim allow themselves to be shot from 300 yards away?" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -4 points 9 months ago "Why did they choose to be propaganda'ed though?" "Why did the woman let someone assault her?" "Why did the victim allow themselves to be shot from 300 yards away?" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 1 point 9 months ago Yeah, we have a few newcomers in the shop here, and conservatives here always tell them it's imperative to vote conservative or they will lose their rights etc... They would have no idea what the implications are if I would not chime in and let them know if they do so they vote for the people who want to kick them out. permalink fedilink source parent