▲ 198 ▼ 'AI' Sucks the Joy Out of Programming (alexn.org) submitted 9 months ago by codeinabox@programming.dev to c/programming@programming.dev 56 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] pennomi@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Feyd@programming.dev 20 points 9 months ago (1 child) I'd rather use some tool bundled with the framework that outputs code that is up to the current standards and patterns than a tool that will pull defunct patterns from it's training data, make shit up, and make mistakes that easily missed by a reviewer glazing over it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 points 9 months ago* (1 child) I just use https://github.com/cookiecutter/cookiecutter and call it a day. No AI required. Probably saves me a good 4 hours in the beginning of each project. Almost all my projects have the same kind of setup nowadays. But thats just work. For personal projects, I use a subset-ish. Theres a custom Admin module that I use to make ALL classes into Django admin models and it takes one import, boom done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Feyd@programming.dev 1 point 9 months ago If it's as minimal as possible, then the responsible play is to write it thoughtfully and intentionally rather than have something that can make subtle errors to slip through reviews. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) “Not worth inventing”? Do you have any idea how insanely expensive LLMs are to run? All for a problem whose solution is basically static text with a few replacements? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago* If it’s 90% boilerplate like you were saying above, how flexible does it need to be, really? If it only needs to get 90% there, surely a general-purpose scaffolding tool could do the job just as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Feyd@programming.dev 20 points 9 months ago (1 child) I'd rather use some tool bundled with the framework that outputs code that is up to the current standards and patterns than a tool that will pull defunct patterns from it's training data, make shit up, and make mistakes that easily missed by a reviewer glazing over it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 points 9 months ago* (1 child) I just use https://github.com/cookiecutter/cookiecutter and call it a day. No AI required. Probably saves me a good 4 hours in the beginning of each project. Almost all my projects have the same kind of setup nowadays. But thats just work. For personal projects, I use a subset-ish. Theres a custom Admin module that I use to make ALL classes into Django admin models and it takes one import, boom done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Feyd@programming.dev 1 point 9 months ago If it's as minimal as possible, then the responsible play is to write it thoughtfully and intentionally rather than have something that can make subtle errors to slip through reviews. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] pennomi@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 points 9 months ago* (1 child) I just use https://github.com/cookiecutter/cookiecutter and call it a day. No AI required. Probably saves me a good 4 hours in the beginning of each project. Almost all my projects have the same kind of setup nowadays. But thats just work. For personal projects, I use a subset-ish. Theres a custom Admin module that I use to make ALL classes into Django admin models and it takes one import, boom done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Feyd@programming.dev 1 point 9 months ago If it's as minimal as possible, then the responsible play is to write it thoughtfully and intentionally rather than have something that can make subtle errors to slip through reviews. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 points 9 months ago* (1 child) I just use https://github.com/cookiecutter/cookiecutter and call it a day. No AI required. Probably saves me a good 4 hours in the beginning of each project. Almost all my projects have the same kind of setup nowadays. But thats just work. For personal projects, I use a subset-ish. Theres a custom Admin module that I use to make ALL classes into Django admin models and it takes one import, boom done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] pennomi@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Feyd@programming.dev 1 point 9 months ago If it's as minimal as possible, then the responsible play is to write it thoughtfully and intentionally rather than have something that can make subtle errors to slip through reviews. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) “Not worth inventing”? Do you have any idea how insanely expensive LLMs are to run? All for a problem whose solution is basically static text with a few replacements? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago* If it’s 90% boilerplate like you were saying above, how flexible does it need to be, really? If it only needs to get 90% there, surely a general-purpose scaffolding tool could do the job just as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] pennomi@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago* If it’s 90% boilerplate like you were saying above, how flexible does it need to be, really? If it only needs to get 90% there, surely a general-purpose scaffolding tool could do the job just as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago* If it’s 90% boilerplate like you were saying above, how flexible does it need to be, really? If it only needs to get 90% there, surely a general-purpose scaffolding tool could do the job just as well. permalink fedilink source parent