▲ 228 ▼ I don't think so (discuss.tchncs.de) submitted 9 months ago* by urheber@discuss.tchncs.de to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 26 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 17 points 9 months ago (2 children) Well Volk is a country's people in German permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 28 points 9 months ago (2 children) More so than that. It was the Nazi-era term referring to “the true Aryan German people”, and excluding all the Nazis regarded as degenerate or un-Aryan, as used in the adjective “volkisch”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) Yep. Much like the swastika was a Hindu and Buddhist symbol (that Hindus and Buddhists have largely given up b/c Nazis) “volk” is one of those things the Nazis tainted for good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 15 points 9 months ago (1 child) We do still use the word though, without associating it with the Third Reich at all. It's a neutral way to refer to ethnicities for example. "Wir sind das Volk" ("we are the people (of this country)") means the sovereignty of the people. "Völkisch" however is tainted (and when non-Germans use "Volk", it is indeed at least suspicious). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lath@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Volk - folk. Is there a Volklore - folklore somewhere in there as well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 9 months ago I'm assuming it's the same root, yes. "Folklore" in German means the same thing, although we pronounce it differently. Don't ask me why we don't spell it "Volklore" - if I had to guess, I'd say the term is older than the spelling "Volk", not least because "Lore" on its own doesn't exist (anymore) in German. permalink fedilink source parent [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de [S] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) I'm German and I never even knew of that association. (Despite 3 years of WW2 and Hitlers Idiocracy in school) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Volksempfänger(propaganda radio), Volkswagen, Volkssturm, völkischer beobachter(nazi newspaper) etc. all originate in that time or were used excessively. So maybe not directly but there are lots of signs or rather word combinations that originated in that time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) VW is probably very happy that tesla is now known as the nazi car maker. permalink fedilink source parent [+] waldo_was_here@piefed.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 28 points 9 months ago (2 children) More so than that. It was the Nazi-era term referring to “the true Aryan German people”, and excluding all the Nazis regarded as degenerate or un-Aryan, as used in the adjective “volkisch”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) Yep. Much like the swastika was a Hindu and Buddhist symbol (that Hindus and Buddhists have largely given up b/c Nazis) “volk” is one of those things the Nazis tainted for good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 15 points 9 months ago (1 child) We do still use the word though, without associating it with the Third Reich at all. It's a neutral way to refer to ethnicities for example. "Wir sind das Volk" ("we are the people (of this country)") means the sovereignty of the people. "Völkisch" however is tainted (and when non-Germans use "Volk", it is indeed at least suspicious). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lath@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Volk - folk. Is there a Volklore - folklore somewhere in there as well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 9 months ago I'm assuming it's the same root, yes. "Folklore" in German means the same thing, although we pronounce it differently. Don't ask me why we don't spell it "Volklore" - if I had to guess, I'd say the term is older than the spelling "Volk", not least because "Lore" on its own doesn't exist (anymore) in German. permalink fedilink source parent [–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de [S] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) I'm German and I never even knew of that association. (Despite 3 years of WW2 and Hitlers Idiocracy in school) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Volksempfänger(propaganda radio), Volkswagen, Volkssturm, völkischer beobachter(nazi newspaper) etc. all originate in that time or were used excessively. So maybe not directly but there are lots of signs or rather word combinations that originated in that time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) VW is probably very happy that tesla is now known as the nazi car maker. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 child) Yep. Much like the swastika was a Hindu and Buddhist symbol (that Hindus and Buddhists have largely given up b/c Nazis) “volk” is one of those things the Nazis tainted for good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 15 points 9 months ago (1 child) We do still use the word though, without associating it with the Third Reich at all. It's a neutral way to refer to ethnicities for example. "Wir sind das Volk" ("we are the people (of this country)") means the sovereignty of the people. "Völkisch" however is tainted (and when non-Germans use "Volk", it is indeed at least suspicious). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lath@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Volk - folk. Is there a Volklore - folklore somewhere in there as well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 9 months ago I'm assuming it's the same root, yes. "Folklore" in German means the same thing, although we pronounce it differently. Don't ask me why we don't spell it "Volklore" - if I had to guess, I'd say the term is older than the spelling "Volk", not least because "Lore" on its own doesn't exist (anymore) in German. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 15 points 9 months ago (1 child) We do still use the word though, without associating it with the Third Reich at all. It's a neutral way to refer to ethnicities for example. "Wir sind das Volk" ("we are the people (of this country)") means the sovereignty of the people. "Völkisch" however is tainted (and when non-Germans use "Volk", it is indeed at least suspicious). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lath@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Volk - folk. Is there a Volklore - folklore somewhere in there as well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 9 months ago I'm assuming it's the same root, yes. "Folklore" in German means the same thing, although we pronounce it differently. Don't ask me why we don't spell it "Volklore" - if I had to guess, I'd say the term is older than the spelling "Volk", not least because "Lore" on its own doesn't exist (anymore) in German. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lath@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Volk - folk. Is there a Volklore - folklore somewhere in there as well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 9 months ago I'm assuming it's the same root, yes. "Folklore" in German means the same thing, although we pronounce it differently. Don't ask me why we don't spell it "Volklore" - if I had to guess, I'd say the term is older than the spelling "Volk", not least because "Lore" on its own doesn't exist (anymore) in German. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 9 months ago I'm assuming it's the same root, yes. "Folklore" in German means the same thing, although we pronounce it differently. Don't ask me why we don't spell it "Volklore" - if I had to guess, I'd say the term is older than the spelling "Volk", not least because "Lore" on its own doesn't exist (anymore) in German. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de [S] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child) I'm German and I never even knew of that association. (Despite 3 years of WW2 and Hitlers Idiocracy in school) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Volksempfänger(propaganda radio), Volkswagen, Volkssturm, völkischer beobachter(nazi newspaper) etc. all originate in that time or were used excessively. So maybe not directly but there are lots of signs or rather word combinations that originated in that time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) VW is probably very happy that tesla is now known as the nazi car maker. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Volksempfänger(propaganda radio), Volkswagen, Volkssturm, völkischer beobachter(nazi newspaper) etc. all originate in that time or were used excessively. So maybe not directly but there are lots of signs or rather word combinations that originated in that time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) VW is probably very happy that tesla is now known as the nazi car maker. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) VW is probably very happy that tesla is now known as the nazi car maker. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] waldo_was_here@piefed.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent