▲ 868 ▼ And they mocked me for my WoW subscription 😗 (lemmy.ml) submitted 10 months ago by cm0002@lemdro.id to c/memes@sopuli.xyz 174 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 9 points 10 months ago (2 children) This is why I download all the music I want. I still listen to it primarily on youtube, but it is a 'just in case'. I also never paid for music. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago (1 child) Artists love you, I'm sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) I doubt they notice. Most artists either get income directly from fans at concerts, via merch, or through explicit patronage (Bandcamp, Patreon, etc). The money they get from streaming isn't remotely enough to support a professional career. Streaming is more about promotion - to get you in the door at the next concert or promote a product with a real revenue stream - than actual income. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Sure. But getting more is better than getting less, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Do artists benefit more from ad-dense, algorithm gamed, corporate controlled media outlets kicking them a few bucks every month? Or is a guerilla campaign of populist free-at-download distribution better for long term concert attendance and merch sales? On the whole, there is minimal moral difference between an individual playing an album on Spotify or lifting it wholesale from a seedy site. The actual difference is that if you are pirating or file-sharing, you’re about 30% likelier to actually buy music permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Do artists benefit more from ad-dense, algorithm gamed, corporate controlled media outlets kicking them a few bucks every month? No idea, I don't use those. The service I use pays (for the 2023-2024 fiscal year) around US$0.01873 per stream in royalties to labels and publishers. Spotify (as of 2025) does $0.003-$0.005 per stream, so it actually improved massively - it's only 6 times less than Qobuz (used to be 12 times less). Or is a guerilla campaign of populist free-at-download distribution better for long term concert attendance and merch sales? Doesn't work for small acts that don't do massive, world-wide tours. Nor for fully independent artists who just don't have the budget to do larger concerts. The actual difference is that if you are pirating or file-sharing, you’re about 30% likelier to actually buy music Cool. Apparently I'm not "average person", because that doesn't apply to me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] asterfield@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I’m not sure that’s something to be proud of permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago (1 child) Artists love you, I'm sure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) I doubt they notice. Most artists either get income directly from fans at concerts, via merch, or through explicit patronage (Bandcamp, Patreon, etc). The money they get from streaming isn't remotely enough to support a professional career. Streaming is more about promotion - to get you in the door at the next concert or promote a product with a real revenue stream - than actual income. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Sure. But getting more is better than getting less, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Do artists benefit more from ad-dense, algorithm gamed, corporate controlled media outlets kicking them a few bucks every month? Or is a guerilla campaign of populist free-at-download distribution better for long term concert attendance and merch sales? On the whole, there is minimal moral difference between an individual playing an album on Spotify or lifting it wholesale from a seedy site. The actual difference is that if you are pirating or file-sharing, you’re about 30% likelier to actually buy music permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Do artists benefit more from ad-dense, algorithm gamed, corporate controlled media outlets kicking them a few bucks every month? No idea, I don't use those. The service I use pays (for the 2023-2024 fiscal year) around US$0.01873 per stream in royalties to labels and publishers. Spotify (as of 2025) does $0.003-$0.005 per stream, so it actually improved massively - it's only 6 times less than Qobuz (used to be 12 times less). Or is a guerilla campaign of populist free-at-download distribution better for long term concert attendance and merch sales? Doesn't work for small acts that don't do massive, world-wide tours. Nor for fully independent artists who just don't have the budget to do larger concerts. The actual difference is that if you are pirating or file-sharing, you’re about 30% likelier to actually buy music Cool. Apparently I'm not "average person", because that doesn't apply to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) I doubt they notice. Most artists either get income directly from fans at concerts, via merch, or through explicit patronage (Bandcamp, Patreon, etc). The money they get from streaming isn't remotely enough to support a professional career. Streaming is more about promotion - to get you in the door at the next concert or promote a product with a real revenue stream - than actual income. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Sure. But getting more is better than getting less, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Do artists benefit more from ad-dense, algorithm gamed, corporate controlled media outlets kicking them a few bucks every month? Or is a guerilla campaign of populist free-at-download distribution better for long term concert attendance and merch sales? On the whole, there is minimal moral difference between an individual playing an album on Spotify or lifting it wholesale from a seedy site. The actual difference is that if you are pirating or file-sharing, you’re about 30% likelier to actually buy music permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Do artists benefit more from ad-dense, algorithm gamed, corporate controlled media outlets kicking them a few bucks every month? No idea, I don't use those. The service I use pays (for the 2023-2024 fiscal year) around US$0.01873 per stream in royalties to labels and publishers. Spotify (as of 2025) does $0.003-$0.005 per stream, so it actually improved massively - it's only 6 times less than Qobuz (used to be 12 times less). Or is a guerilla campaign of populist free-at-download distribution better for long term concert attendance and merch sales? Doesn't work for small acts that don't do massive, world-wide tours. Nor for fully independent artists who just don't have the budget to do larger concerts. The actual difference is that if you are pirating or file-sharing, you’re about 30% likelier to actually buy music Cool. Apparently I'm not "average person", because that doesn't apply to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Sure. But getting more is better than getting less, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Do artists benefit more from ad-dense, algorithm gamed, corporate controlled media outlets kicking them a few bucks every month? Or is a guerilla campaign of populist free-at-download distribution better for long term concert attendance and merch sales? On the whole, there is minimal moral difference between an individual playing an album on Spotify or lifting it wholesale from a seedy site. The actual difference is that if you are pirating or file-sharing, you’re about 30% likelier to actually buy music permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Do artists benefit more from ad-dense, algorithm gamed, corporate controlled media outlets kicking them a few bucks every month? No idea, I don't use those. The service I use pays (for the 2023-2024 fiscal year) around US$0.01873 per stream in royalties to labels and publishers. Spotify (as of 2025) does $0.003-$0.005 per stream, so it actually improved massively - it's only 6 times less than Qobuz (used to be 12 times less). Or is a guerilla campaign of populist free-at-download distribution better for long term concert attendance and merch sales? Doesn't work for small acts that don't do massive, world-wide tours. Nor for fully independent artists who just don't have the budget to do larger concerts. The actual difference is that if you are pirating or file-sharing, you’re about 30% likelier to actually buy music Cool. Apparently I'm not "average person", because that doesn't apply to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Do artists benefit more from ad-dense, algorithm gamed, corporate controlled media outlets kicking them a few bucks every month? Or is a guerilla campaign of populist free-at-download distribution better for long term concert attendance and merch sales? On the whole, there is minimal moral difference between an individual playing an album on Spotify or lifting it wholesale from a seedy site. The actual difference is that if you are pirating or file-sharing, you’re about 30% likelier to actually buy music permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Do artists benefit more from ad-dense, algorithm gamed, corporate controlled media outlets kicking them a few bucks every month? No idea, I don't use those. The service I use pays (for the 2023-2024 fiscal year) around US$0.01873 per stream in royalties to labels and publishers. Spotify (as of 2025) does $0.003-$0.005 per stream, so it actually improved massively - it's only 6 times less than Qobuz (used to be 12 times less). Or is a guerilla campaign of populist free-at-download distribution better for long term concert attendance and merch sales? Doesn't work for small acts that don't do massive, world-wide tours. Nor for fully independent artists who just don't have the budget to do larger concerts. The actual difference is that if you are pirating or file-sharing, you’re about 30% likelier to actually buy music Cool. Apparently I'm not "average person", because that doesn't apply to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Do artists benefit more from ad-dense, algorithm gamed, corporate controlled media outlets kicking them a few bucks every month? No idea, I don't use those. The service I use pays (for the 2023-2024 fiscal year) around US$0.01873 per stream in royalties to labels and publishers. Spotify (as of 2025) does $0.003-$0.005 per stream, so it actually improved massively - it's only 6 times less than Qobuz (used to be 12 times less). Or is a guerilla campaign of populist free-at-download distribution better for long term concert attendance and merch sales? Doesn't work for small acts that don't do massive, world-wide tours. Nor for fully independent artists who just don't have the budget to do larger concerts. The actual difference is that if you are pirating or file-sharing, you’re about 30% likelier to actually buy music Cool. Apparently I'm not "average person", because that doesn't apply to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] asterfield@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I’m not sure that’s something to be proud of permalink fedilink source parent
