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Framework supporting far-right racists? (community.frame.work)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I really don't know if people actually mean fascism/nazism or is this just a term applied to xenophobic nationalism. I see this all around fedi and I genuinely can't tell which case it is.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    @majster @pegazz What's the difference? And why should anyone who isn't a fascist, a nazi, or a xenophobic nationalist care?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    I would say basic respect of human dignity. Fascism/nazism was always violent and unlawful. I care because fascism/nazism is really really terrible with horrible consequences for real people in real world and would thus like to now what are even talking about.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    Are you saying the consequences of xenophobic nationalism are not terrible or horrible? Xenophobic nationalists respect basic human dignity?

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    To me arguing for changes in visa quotas and border control is not equal to advocating for forceful expulsion of people already living somewhere. To me that seems to be difference between moderates/fascists. CDU/AfD difference if you will.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    @majster The difference here is between someone who wants to enact violence against others by forcefully expelling them from their homes vs someone who wants to enact violence against others by denying them a safe haven after they have been forcefully expelled from their homes. To me, this falls under the category of "differences between nazis/fascists/xenophobic nationalists which only a nazi/fascist/xenophobic nationalist would care about". @wetling

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Umm, Trump has been forcefully expelling people en masse for quite some time now, and detaining large groups of people in horrible conditions (sound familiar?). Have you not been paying attention?

    The regime is absolutely, without a doubt, 100% fascist. It's following the Nazi playbook to a T.

    Stop sanewashing his actions.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Palingenetic ultranationalism is a definition of "true fascism" proposed by political theorist Roger Griffin.

    So, you are painting with a fairly fine brush there. While "Nazi" is more metaphorical, there are definitely people with authority in the US government that are literally fascists.

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