And that basically is what we have in the Netherlands and it's awesome. Literally everyone raves about how nice it is when they see it but they hate evil government 15 minute cities

It's amazing to me how that happened. It almost feels like it's part of some one-upmanship campaign for different propagandists.

One says "Ok, I'm going to take a boring, UN plan about sustainable development called 'Agenda 21' and make people think it's some evil conspiracy, despite the full text being available online."

The other says: "Nicely done, but you think that's good, I can make people hate the concept of pleasant, walkable cities!"