▲ 282 ▼ Fire destroys Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available (koreajoongangdaily.joins.com) submitted 10 months ago by cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/datahoarder@lemmy.ml 58 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/658762 Comments
[–] limer@lemmy.ml 59 points 10 months ago (4 children) Suppressing evidence? Looks like this was a deliberate oversight to later erase data. Probably data retention safety was overruled earlier by one person. So, I think the designed erase worked as designed . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] otp@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 months ago (1 child) Pretty big conspiracy theory for a situation where incompetence doesn't seem out of the ordinary. SysAdmins saying "We need X, we need Y", someone who signs the cheques saying "But it works fine! Why would there be a fire? We already spent so much on those UPSs" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I don’t know a lot at this time. The cool thing is this will be discussed for years , and any who follow this will know a lot more. I’m just saying if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck it may not be a squirrel permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 child) What you described isn't "looks like a duck, quacks like a duck". This is a fire in a government (publicly-funded) location in an industry that's often overlooked and underfunded... in a traditionally conservative country (with a Liberal leader for the last few months) that is part of a very top-down hierarchical structure. Which would suggest that the complaints of a systems administrator are likely to be ignored. And that's assuming that the systems administrator is competent, which isn't a guarantee in and of itself. I'm seeing what looks like a duck, I'm hearing the quacks. The conspiracy theory is that it's a squirrel in a duck costume that learned how to quack so people would toss it bread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Here we have a glass of water, it’s half full. Did someone forget to fill it up, or did someone drink it. Is it institutional incompetence or criminal conspiracy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) I don't think changing the analogy makes your argument stronger permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago I don’t have any argument, just my natural suspicion only. But you likewise are thin on facts, your natural inclination is to see this as more a system issue. Either we will never know , or one of us will be correct later permalink fedilink source parent [–] Krudler@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago Bingo! permalink fedilink source parent [–] sadness_nexus@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago Hanlon's razor mate. I know it's entirely possible that it's a conspiracy, but it'd entirely possible (and more likely) that it's just incompetence and lack of communication due to inefficient and lackluster processes as well as too many levels of leadership. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 10 months ago I don't know about deliberate, but it certainly crossed my mind. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 months ago (1 child) Pretty big conspiracy theory for a situation where incompetence doesn't seem out of the ordinary. SysAdmins saying "We need X, we need Y", someone who signs the cheques saying "But it works fine! Why would there be a fire? We already spent so much on those UPSs" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I don’t know a lot at this time. The cool thing is this will be discussed for years , and any who follow this will know a lot more. I’m just saying if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck it may not be a squirrel permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 child) What you described isn't "looks like a duck, quacks like a duck". This is a fire in a government (publicly-funded) location in an industry that's often overlooked and underfunded... in a traditionally conservative country (with a Liberal leader for the last few months) that is part of a very top-down hierarchical structure. Which would suggest that the complaints of a systems administrator are likely to be ignored. And that's assuming that the systems administrator is competent, which isn't a guarantee in and of itself. I'm seeing what looks like a duck, I'm hearing the quacks. The conspiracy theory is that it's a squirrel in a duck costume that learned how to quack so people would toss it bread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Here we have a glass of water, it’s half full. Did someone forget to fill it up, or did someone drink it. Is it institutional incompetence or criminal conspiracy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) I don't think changing the analogy makes your argument stronger permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago I don’t have any argument, just my natural suspicion only. But you likewise are thin on facts, your natural inclination is to see this as more a system issue. Either we will never know , or one of us will be correct later permalink fedilink source parent
[–] limer@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) I don’t know a lot at this time. The cool thing is this will be discussed for years , and any who follow this will know a lot more. I’m just saying if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck it may not be a squirrel permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 child) What you described isn't "looks like a duck, quacks like a duck". This is a fire in a government (publicly-funded) location in an industry that's often overlooked and underfunded... in a traditionally conservative country (with a Liberal leader for the last few months) that is part of a very top-down hierarchical structure. Which would suggest that the complaints of a systems administrator are likely to be ignored. And that's assuming that the systems administrator is competent, which isn't a guarantee in and of itself. I'm seeing what looks like a duck, I'm hearing the quacks. The conspiracy theory is that it's a squirrel in a duck costume that learned how to quack so people would toss it bread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Here we have a glass of water, it’s half full. Did someone forget to fill it up, or did someone drink it. Is it institutional incompetence or criminal conspiracy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) I don't think changing the analogy makes your argument stronger permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago I don’t have any argument, just my natural suspicion only. But you likewise are thin on facts, your natural inclination is to see this as more a system issue. Either we will never know , or one of us will be correct later permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 child) What you described isn't "looks like a duck, quacks like a duck". This is a fire in a government (publicly-funded) location in an industry that's often overlooked and underfunded... in a traditionally conservative country (with a Liberal leader for the last few months) that is part of a very top-down hierarchical structure. Which would suggest that the complaints of a systems administrator are likely to be ignored. And that's assuming that the systems administrator is competent, which isn't a guarantee in and of itself. I'm seeing what looks like a duck, I'm hearing the quacks. The conspiracy theory is that it's a squirrel in a duck costume that learned how to quack so people would toss it bread. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Here we have a glass of water, it’s half full. Did someone forget to fill it up, or did someone drink it. Is it institutional incompetence or criminal conspiracy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) I don't think changing the analogy makes your argument stronger permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago I don’t have any argument, just my natural suspicion only. But you likewise are thin on facts, your natural inclination is to see this as more a system issue. Either we will never know , or one of us will be correct later permalink fedilink source parent
[–] limer@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Here we have a glass of water, it’s half full. Did someone forget to fill it up, or did someone drink it. Is it institutional incompetence or criminal conspiracy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) I don't think changing the analogy makes your argument stronger permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago I don’t have any argument, just my natural suspicion only. But you likewise are thin on facts, your natural inclination is to see this as more a system issue. Either we will never know , or one of us will be correct later permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) I don't think changing the analogy makes your argument stronger permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago I don’t have any argument, just my natural suspicion only. But you likewise are thin on facts, your natural inclination is to see this as more a system issue. Either we will never know , or one of us will be correct later permalink fedilink source parent
[–] limer@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago I don’t have any argument, just my natural suspicion only. But you likewise are thin on facts, your natural inclination is to see this as more a system issue. Either we will never know , or one of us will be correct later permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sadness_nexus@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago Hanlon's razor mate. I know it's entirely possible that it's a conspiracy, but it'd entirely possible (and more likely) that it's just incompetence and lack of communication due to inefficient and lackluster processes as well as too many levels of leadership. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 10 months ago I don't know about deliberate, but it certainly crossed my mind. permalink fedilink source parent