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Google just broke all third-party YT clients, including yt-dlp; a full JS implementation is now required. (github.com)
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.org/post/1872634

So, starting now, Google started mandating full JS for YT, effectively breaking all third-party clients and locking the site to their official client.

This reeks of DRM.

UPDATE: Installing Deno and installing yt-dlp through PyPi fixes yt-dlp but the very idea that Google is mandating JS to lock down YT in an attempt at pseudo-DRM is still crappy.

UPDATE #2: inv.nadeko.net is working again for now.

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[–] [S] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

Couldn't posting your normal content to PeerTube or whatever, and then selling premium content on Nebula to fund the would-be free PeerTube portion, be a potentially viable model vs. gaming the AdSense system on YT and hoping for the best?

Like, if you cover the same niche as Not Just Bikes, for example, but replace YT with PeerTube, that could maybe work provided you have a big enough following.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Why not both? As far as I can tell, only Nebula originals are restricted to just one platform. Everything else is in two places. I think you could totally play the same game with a PT+Nebula combo.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Mainly because PT's a better fit to Nebula being creator-centric, vs. YT where it's what Google says goes and you have basically no say over your content.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah that’s a better pair as far as censorship is concerned. On YT, you need to dance around sensitive topics as if you’re talking to a child.

    However, as there are more viewers on the bigger platform, abandoning that place doesn’t happen so easily. It’s basically like Facebook all over again. Isn’t there a term for this type of inertia…

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Honestly, you shouldn’t talk to children using words like sewer slide, ledollarbean, or unalive. I fucking hate this algospeech. It drives me to violence.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah it’s getting completely ridiculous. Also, video essays about movies have to dodge copyright scans by resorting to super aggressive editing and visual trickery that basically just ruins the whole video. On PT, they could make much nicer videos.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 10 months ago

    Even music commentary videos that were previously fine started getting dinged and having certain parts muted as a result, even if they're in Fair Use otherwise because Fair Use is dead and buried on YT and has been for years.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    That's one thing PhantomStrider constantly makes a point of when reviewing XYZ kid's flick or show; content aimed at kids, and in general, shouldn't talk down to them like they're stupid like, say, Dora does.

    Language like 'unalive' when referring to killing, for example, even in a totally legitimate manner taking on some inherently dark subject matter like with any True Crime stuff, could be construed as talking down, vs. just presenting the content straight-up and being as accurate to the subject matter and as respectful to the audience which might very much include the families of the victims of whatever crimes are being covered, as humanly possible.

    Like imagine pulling up a video essay on someone like Jeffrey Dahmer and having it be littered with language like 'unalive' and 'grape' when dealing with very, very serious subject matter like that, if I happened to be a family member of one of that guy's victims, I'd feel very talked down to and be insulted as hell, plus it's just not good optics to use language like 'unalive' when the subject matter you're dealing with is very dark and serious subject matter.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    Wait, sewer slide to describe the offing of one's self, really?! Google's that easily offended to where they'll censor vids talking about someone offing themselves if they just straight-up say the act instead of calling it something that sounds like the name of a Double Dare obstacle?!!

    I guess Google doesn't know that using immature-sounding code words to talk about something like that is more likely to offend potential victims in the audience than just allowing the person talking about this stuff to be straight with the audience and just present the subject matter as-is.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    We haven’t been able to talk frankly on YouTube for well over a decade at this point. It’s just crept from specific niches to just general bullshit.

    If I talk about the time I got raped, I’d sooner choke Sundar Pichai than refer to it as the time I got “graped” or even “SA’d.” I recall Stephanie Sterling talking about it in their last video, about how we now live in a reality where you cannot make a video essay on the holocaust using the fucking word holocaust!

    The infantilisation of the English language to appease algorithms and corporate interests infuriates me. I can agree to watch my tone and moderate my language as to not hurt people around me, but fuck if I’m going to do so just to help fill come cuntbag’s bloated fucking coin purse.

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    As an aside; I don’t think sewer slide is common, and rather “unalive oneself” tends to be the more common phrase, but I heard it once.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Adam Buckley has been seemingly antagonizing YT by poking fun at this sorta thing too, and you still shouldn't have to describe someone offing themselves with a code phrase that legitimately sounds like something that Nick would've picked as the name for an obstacle in Double Dare, that's disrespectful as hell to any victims of someone who took that route in the audience.

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