no for sure. but i'm not talking about the origins of the extrajudicial violence, i'm talking about how to end it. to do that we need more allies, and to gain more allies we need messaging that reaches the people who don't understand that the cruelty is the point, and think it's a means to an end. we need to be pointing out that in all this chaos, killing, and violence that epstein's clients have gotten no closer to justice, and many have gained power. we need to be pointing out that organized crime outfits thrive in these conditions. the chaos, killing, and violence is a tool of the pedophiles, not a tool that slows them down.

we have to let go of our pride and let go of being correct, a little bit. it's not about knowing better than the conservatives, it's about showing the conservatives who are possible to change the error of their ways in a way that they'll understand. we'll never survive if we're too dedicated to purity of action to take actions that will help us long term.