▲ 841 ▼ Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features worth up to $15,000 (electrek.co) submitted 3 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 109 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] brockpriv@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Most softwares work this way. You download the full thing. Your subscription level dictate what feature you can use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one -5 points 3 years ago (2 children) So you're worried about the hard disk space in your car ? Can you even access that as an end-user? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, he's saying that's all the components are included to use this feature adding weight to the car and affecting your fuel (or in this case battery) milage, but you can't use them without paying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) What components are adding weight? AFAIK the components used by FSD are already in use by other features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I’m not specifically talking about FSD But I am. But when it’s shit like heated seats, then that’s bullshit I agree, as I said here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Do you know what an analogy is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) Sure, but your analogy doesn't make any sense. There is no downside to you because of this feature being in your car in a disabled state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) It’s not my analogy, but it does make sense if you even remotely think about it. The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware. Teslas are heavy enough as-is with their giant batteries, I’d rather remove any and all unnecessary weight for the sake of my tire tread life (and battery life). Also depending on exactly what the hardware is, it can be an additional point of failure that could potentially cause things that I do have access to to break. Lastly, it’s fair to assume that the price of the car would be cheaper if Tesla didn’t have to install this hardware into every car even if it will never be used, so you are likely already paying for this in “hidden” costs that are just rolled into the total price of the car before even paying to enable the features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware. No it doesn't. As far as I know FSD doesn't require additional hardware. It uses the hardware already in the car for other purposes (like lane assist, emergency braking, etc). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago FSD isn’t the only feature locked behind a paywall. They lock up everything from heated seats to acceleration speed. permalink fedilink source parent [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brockpriv@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Most softwares work this way. You download the full thing. Your subscription level dictate what feature you can use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one -5 points 3 years ago (2 children) So you're worried about the hard disk space in your car ? Can you even access that as an end-user? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, he's saying that's all the components are included to use this feature adding weight to the car and affecting your fuel (or in this case battery) milage, but you can't use them without paying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) What components are adding weight? AFAIK the components used by FSD are already in use by other features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I’m not specifically talking about FSD But I am. But when it’s shit like heated seats, then that’s bullshit I agree, as I said here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Do you know what an analogy is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) Sure, but your analogy doesn't make any sense. There is no downside to you because of this feature being in your car in a disabled state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) It’s not my analogy, but it does make sense if you even remotely think about it. The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware. Teslas are heavy enough as-is with their giant batteries, I’d rather remove any and all unnecessary weight for the sake of my tire tread life (and battery life). Also depending on exactly what the hardware is, it can be an additional point of failure that could potentially cause things that I do have access to to break. Lastly, it’s fair to assume that the price of the car would be cheaper if Tesla didn’t have to install this hardware into every car even if it will never be used, so you are likely already paying for this in “hidden” costs that are just rolled into the total price of the car before even paying to enable the features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware. No it doesn't. As far as I know FSD doesn't require additional hardware. It uses the hardware already in the car for other purposes (like lane assist, emergency braking, etc). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago FSD isn’t the only feature locked behind a paywall. They lock up everything from heated seats to acceleration speed. permalink fedilink source parent [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, he's saying that's all the components are included to use this feature adding weight to the car and affecting your fuel (or in this case battery) milage, but you can't use them without paying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) What components are adding weight? AFAIK the components used by FSD are already in use by other features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I’m not specifically talking about FSD But I am. But when it’s shit like heated seats, then that’s bullshit I agree, as I said here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) What components are adding weight? AFAIK the components used by FSD are already in use by other features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I’m not specifically talking about FSD But I am. But when it’s shit like heated seats, then that’s bullshit I agree, as I said here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I’m not specifically talking about FSD But I am. But when it’s shit like heated seats, then that’s bullshit I agree, as I said here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I’m not specifically talking about FSD But I am. But when it’s shit like heated seats, then that’s bullshit I agree, as I said here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Do you know what an analogy is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) Sure, but your analogy doesn't make any sense. There is no downside to you because of this feature being in your car in a disabled state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) It’s not my analogy, but it does make sense if you even remotely think about it. The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware. Teslas are heavy enough as-is with their giant batteries, I’d rather remove any and all unnecessary weight for the sake of my tire tread life (and battery life). Also depending on exactly what the hardware is, it can be an additional point of failure that could potentially cause things that I do have access to to break. Lastly, it’s fair to assume that the price of the car would be cheaper if Tesla didn’t have to install this hardware into every car even if it will never be used, so you are likely already paying for this in “hidden” costs that are just rolled into the total price of the car before even paying to enable the features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware. No it doesn't. As far as I know FSD doesn't require additional hardware. It uses the hardware already in the car for other purposes (like lane assist, emergency braking, etc). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago FSD isn’t the only feature locked behind a paywall. They lock up everything from heated seats to acceleration speed. permalink fedilink source parent [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) Sure, but your analogy doesn't make any sense. There is no downside to you because of this feature being in your car in a disabled state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) It’s not my analogy, but it does make sense if you even remotely think about it. The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware. Teslas are heavy enough as-is with their giant batteries, I’d rather remove any and all unnecessary weight for the sake of my tire tread life (and battery life). Also depending on exactly what the hardware is, it can be an additional point of failure that could potentially cause things that I do have access to to break. Lastly, it’s fair to assume that the price of the car would be cheaper if Tesla didn’t have to install this hardware into every car even if it will never be used, so you are likely already paying for this in “hidden” costs that are just rolled into the total price of the car before even paying to enable the features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware. No it doesn't. As far as I know FSD doesn't require additional hardware. It uses the hardware already in the car for other purposes (like lane assist, emergency braking, etc). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago FSD isn’t the only feature locked behind a paywall. They lock up everything from heated seats to acceleration speed. permalink fedilink source parent [+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child) It’s not my analogy, but it does make sense if you even remotely think about it. The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware. Teslas are heavy enough as-is with their giant batteries, I’d rather remove any and all unnecessary weight for the sake of my tire tread life (and battery life). Also depending on exactly what the hardware is, it can be an additional point of failure that could potentially cause things that I do have access to to break. Lastly, it’s fair to assume that the price of the car would be cheaper if Tesla didn’t have to install this hardware into every car even if it will never be used, so you are likely already paying for this in “hidden” costs that are just rolled into the total price of the car before even paying to enable the features. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware. No it doesn't. As far as I know FSD doesn't require additional hardware. It uses the hardware already in the car for other purposes (like lane assist, emergency braking, etc). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago FSD isn’t the only feature locked behind a paywall. They lock up everything from heated seats to acceleration speed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware. No it doesn't. As far as I know FSD doesn't require additional hardware. It uses the hardware already in the car for other purposes (like lane assist, emergency braking, etc). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago FSD isn’t the only feature locked behind a paywall. They lock up everything from heated seats to acceleration speed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rufio@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago FSD isn’t the only feature locked behind a paywall. They lock up everything from heated seats to acceleration speed. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent