▲ 269 ▼ Parents outraged as Meta uses photos of schoolgirls in ads targeting man (www.theguardian.com) submitted 11 months ago by Duckxon@feddit.uk to c/news@lemmy.world 44 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] r00ty@kbin.life 46 points 11 months ago (3 children) I was about to say, it's normal for meta. But then I read they made private posts public on the other platform. No, just no. No excuse for that at all. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 20 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ah, they made it private on Facebook, but not on Threads. Which they didn't know it was also being posted to, but that's by-the-by. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] r00ty@kbin.life 10 points 10 months ago (1 child) Well, I still have a Facebook account for the few people that are only on there. I am getting ads showing Threads posts, and if you click it, it takes you to threads and wants you to make an account. So I'm assuming what is happening is that they're taking posts from one service and showing them on their other services with click through to make accounts on those services. I guess they're not honouring the privacy setting on the source service. Which if that is the case, is just terrible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 7 points 10 months ago (1 child) One mother said her account was set to private, but the posts were automatically cross-posting to Threads where they were visible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] r00ty@kbin.life 2 points 10 months ago Oh, this might be some instagram/threads thing then, I know they share an account. I don't use either of those services. I know on Facebook there's these ads for threads and it's putting random thread "stories" (I don't know what they're called) up on the timeline. So I thought they were doing a similar thing between all three services and not honouring the privacy setting. Still, just my personal opinion. If there's automatic crossposting, the default really should be to use the more restrictive privacy setting for each service. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago Teshnikully, you waive a LOT of rights on anything you post on their service. I'm not sure the "private post" thing would hold against sending your pictures to a third party in the first place. Of course, it's shitty. But they put that provision in their TOS a long time ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] leverage@lemdro.id -2 points 10 months ago (1 child) I'm not trying to defend Meta, but where in the article does it say that private posts were shared publicly? I'm only seeing that public posts made by adults were used this way. The main rub is Facebook being accused of intentionally serving these publicly posted photos of children in school uniforms (by parents) as bait to join another one of their platforms. Like, a grown man was sent multiple advertisements where this was the exact content, no back to school pictures of young men, or any other type of photo. That they sexualized children algorithmically to bait men into using Threads, and are justifying it's ok because the parents shared the photo publicly and didn't opt out of the advertising settings (which seem to be a way to gain followers?). One of the men was like, I've no idea why they keep sending me these pictures, I don't engage with them. That might be an even more interesting story, because either Facebook is trying to offer sexualized children to uninterested men, or they know exactly which men are interested in sexualized children and instead of using it to push intervention ads, ban them from seeing the content their AI can definitely classify as enticing, or anything else, they use it to try to make more money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 child) I'm not trying to defend Meta, but where in the article does it say that private posts were shared publicly? Third paragraph One mother said her account was set to private, but the posts were automatically cross-posting to Threads where they were visible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leverage@lemdro.id 2 points 10 months ago Ah, thank you and sorry, I should have just searched before posting. Part of the issue is the quotes from Facebook rep saying they only do this with public posts, makes me wonder if its user error, platform lying, a bug, etc. but fuck all that. Any situation like this is strictly the platform's fault, idc if the mother is mistaken and actually posted it publicly, if that's possible then it's bad design. Invest more in UX and less in user manipulation. If a parent was intentionally whoring out their children, we'd expect the platform to prevent that, not enable it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 20 points 10 months ago (1 child) Ah, they made it private on Facebook, but not on Threads. Which they didn't know it was also being posted to, but that's by-the-by. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] r00ty@kbin.life 10 points 10 months ago (1 child) Well, I still have a Facebook account for the few people that are only on there. I am getting ads showing Threads posts, and if you click it, it takes you to threads and wants you to make an account. So I'm assuming what is happening is that they're taking posts from one service and showing them on their other services with click through to make accounts on those services. I guess they're not honouring the privacy setting on the source service. Which if that is the case, is just terrible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 7 points 10 months ago (1 child) One mother said her account was set to private, but the posts were automatically cross-posting to Threads where they were visible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] r00ty@kbin.life 2 points 10 months ago Oh, this might be some instagram/threads thing then, I know they share an account. I don't use either of those services. I know on Facebook there's these ads for threads and it's putting random thread "stories" (I don't know what they're called) up on the timeline. So I thought they were doing a similar thing between all three services and not honouring the privacy setting. Still, just my personal opinion. If there's automatic crossposting, the default really should be to use the more restrictive privacy setting for each service. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] r00ty@kbin.life 10 points 10 months ago (1 child) Well, I still have a Facebook account for the few people that are only on there. I am getting ads showing Threads posts, and if you click it, it takes you to threads and wants you to make an account. So I'm assuming what is happening is that they're taking posts from one service and showing them on their other services with click through to make accounts on those services. I guess they're not honouring the privacy setting on the source service. Which if that is the case, is just terrible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 7 points 10 months ago (1 child) One mother said her account was set to private, but the posts were automatically cross-posting to Threads where they were visible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] r00ty@kbin.life 2 points 10 months ago Oh, this might be some instagram/threads thing then, I know they share an account. I don't use either of those services. I know on Facebook there's these ads for threads and it's putting random thread "stories" (I don't know what they're called) up on the timeline. So I thought they were doing a similar thing between all three services and not honouring the privacy setting. Still, just my personal opinion. If there's automatic crossposting, the default really should be to use the more restrictive privacy setting for each service. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 7 points 10 months ago (1 child) One mother said her account was set to private, but the posts were automatically cross-posting to Threads where they were visible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] r00ty@kbin.life 2 points 10 months ago Oh, this might be some instagram/threads thing then, I know they share an account. I don't use either of those services. I know on Facebook there's these ads for threads and it's putting random thread "stories" (I don't know what they're called) up on the timeline. So I thought they were doing a similar thing between all three services and not honouring the privacy setting. Still, just my personal opinion. If there's automatic crossposting, the default really should be to use the more restrictive privacy setting for each service. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] r00ty@kbin.life 2 points 10 months ago Oh, this might be some instagram/threads thing then, I know they share an account. I don't use either of those services. I know on Facebook there's these ads for threads and it's putting random thread "stories" (I don't know what they're called) up on the timeline. So I thought they were doing a similar thing between all three services and not honouring the privacy setting. Still, just my personal opinion. If there's automatic crossposting, the default really should be to use the more restrictive privacy setting for each service. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago Teshnikully, you waive a LOT of rights on anything you post on their service. I'm not sure the "private post" thing would hold against sending your pictures to a third party in the first place. Of course, it's shitty. But they put that provision in their TOS a long time ago. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leverage@lemdro.id -2 points 10 months ago (1 child) I'm not trying to defend Meta, but where in the article does it say that private posts were shared publicly? I'm only seeing that public posts made by adults were used this way. The main rub is Facebook being accused of intentionally serving these publicly posted photos of children in school uniforms (by parents) as bait to join another one of their platforms. Like, a grown man was sent multiple advertisements where this was the exact content, no back to school pictures of young men, or any other type of photo. That they sexualized children algorithmically to bait men into using Threads, and are justifying it's ok because the parents shared the photo publicly and didn't opt out of the advertising settings (which seem to be a way to gain followers?). One of the men was like, I've no idea why they keep sending me these pictures, I don't engage with them. That might be an even more interesting story, because either Facebook is trying to offer sexualized children to uninterested men, or they know exactly which men are interested in sexualized children and instead of using it to push intervention ads, ban them from seeing the content their AI can definitely classify as enticing, or anything else, they use it to try to make more money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 child) I'm not trying to defend Meta, but where in the article does it say that private posts were shared publicly? Third paragraph One mother said her account was set to private, but the posts were automatically cross-posting to Threads where they were visible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leverage@lemdro.id 2 points 10 months ago Ah, thank you and sorry, I should have just searched before posting. Part of the issue is the quotes from Facebook rep saying they only do this with public posts, makes me wonder if its user error, platform lying, a bug, etc. but fuck all that. Any situation like this is strictly the platform's fault, idc if the mother is mistaken and actually posted it publicly, if that's possible then it's bad design. Invest more in UX and less in user manipulation. If a parent was intentionally whoring out their children, we'd expect the platform to prevent that, not enable it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 child) I'm not trying to defend Meta, but where in the article does it say that private posts were shared publicly? Third paragraph One mother said her account was set to private, but the posts were automatically cross-posting to Threads where they were visible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] leverage@lemdro.id 2 points 10 months ago Ah, thank you and sorry, I should have just searched before posting. Part of the issue is the quotes from Facebook rep saying they only do this with public posts, makes me wonder if its user error, platform lying, a bug, etc. but fuck all that. Any situation like this is strictly the platform's fault, idc if the mother is mistaken and actually posted it publicly, if that's possible then it's bad design. Invest more in UX and less in user manipulation. If a parent was intentionally whoring out their children, we'd expect the platform to prevent that, not enable it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leverage@lemdro.id 2 points 10 months ago Ah, thank you and sorry, I should have just searched before posting. Part of the issue is the quotes from Facebook rep saying they only do this with public posts, makes me wonder if its user error, platform lying, a bug, etc. but fuck all that. Any situation like this is strictly the platform's fault, idc if the mother is mistaken and actually posted it publicly, if that's possible then it's bad design. Invest more in UX and less in user manipulation. If a parent was intentionally whoring out their children, we'd expect the platform to prevent that, not enable it. permalink fedilink source parent