▲ 103 ▼ What is something that should have died out a long time ago? (lemmy.world) submitted 10 months ago by chunes@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world 191 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 101 points 10 months ago (2 children) Young earth creationism and flat earth permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children) Young earth creationism What I hate so much about that, is all the "evidence" just points to some near extinction level event that humans worldwide suffered. And obviously for that to have happened, it means there had to be a lot more people. Like, entire cities/tribes/whatever were wiped out everywhere, but some had individuals survive. Which explains how "the last two people" could have kids who just happen to later have spouses and kids of their own without any explanation for where the new people came from. They were just outside of walking distance. Over the 300,000 plus years anatomically modern humans have been on Earth, that's probably happened a bunch. Hell, we've had 2-3 actual ice ages over that span. We don't know shit about 250k of those years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] aarRJaay@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 child) From what I understand (and as a Christian), it's those Christians that take a literal reading of the Bible, not understanding that those parts of the Bible aren't meant to be read literally but are about the WHY of creation rather than the HOW. It's about WHO God is rather than how He did things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 15 points 10 months ago (1 child) Either that or Genesis is just an explanation made up by a people group that had little to no idea how anything in the natural world works lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) If you squint real hard, Genesis is a tale of stellar and planetary formation. Then comes evolution. Give the first bits a read! Yeah, evolution is mixed up a little, still surprisingly on point for a bunch of Bronze Age sheep herders. Then there's a second tale, in the same short book. What a clusterfuck. But I can still see some real history in it. If I squint real hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago Yeah seeing as the writers of the Pentateuch didn't even know what the stars were, I'm pretty sure that's all a coincidence lol. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Squint so hard your eyes are closed, maybe. Any overlap between biblical verse (translated through at least two languages) and modern scientific understanding is coincidental. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago Like a prophecy referencing cities burning being reimagined as a nuclear exchange instead of, you know, a fire. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) I always thought 2 Peter 3:8 basically addressed this issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Wow! Nailed it! I had thought that as a young Christian, didn't know there was a verse for it. Lost my religion long ago BTW. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago What's weird is the young Earth thing is relatively new. Before the 1850s or so, you would be laughed out of the room. As ignorant as we were, naturalists were having a hard time trying to figure a world that was millions, or 10s of millions, of years old. Churches, of any stripe, sure as hell wasn't preaching it. And here we are, with the flat Earth idea being even newer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children) Young earth creationism What I hate so much about that, is all the "evidence" just points to some near extinction level event that humans worldwide suffered. And obviously for that to have happened, it means there had to be a lot more people. Like, entire cities/tribes/whatever were wiped out everywhere, but some had individuals survive. Which explains how "the last two people" could have kids who just happen to later have spouses and kids of their own without any explanation for where the new people came from. They were just outside of walking distance. Over the 300,000 plus years anatomically modern humans have been on Earth, that's probably happened a bunch. Hell, we've had 2-3 actual ice ages over that span. We don't know shit about 250k of those years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] aarRJaay@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 child) From what I understand (and as a Christian), it's those Christians that take a literal reading of the Bible, not understanding that those parts of the Bible aren't meant to be read literally but are about the WHY of creation rather than the HOW. It's about WHO God is rather than how He did things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 15 points 10 months ago (1 child) Either that or Genesis is just an explanation made up by a people group that had little to no idea how anything in the natural world works lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) If you squint real hard, Genesis is a tale of stellar and planetary formation. Then comes evolution. Give the first bits a read! Yeah, evolution is mixed up a little, still surprisingly on point for a bunch of Bronze Age sheep herders. Then there's a second tale, in the same short book. What a clusterfuck. But I can still see some real history in it. If I squint real hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago Yeah seeing as the writers of the Pentateuch didn't even know what the stars were, I'm pretty sure that's all a coincidence lol. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Squint so hard your eyes are closed, maybe. Any overlap between biblical verse (translated through at least two languages) and modern scientific understanding is coincidental. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago Like a prophecy referencing cities burning being reimagined as a nuclear exchange instead of, you know, a fire. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) I always thought 2 Peter 3:8 basically addressed this issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Wow! Nailed it! I had thought that as a young Christian, didn't know there was a verse for it. Lost my religion long ago BTW. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aarRJaay@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 child) From what I understand (and as a Christian), it's those Christians that take a literal reading of the Bible, not understanding that those parts of the Bible aren't meant to be read literally but are about the WHY of creation rather than the HOW. It's about WHO God is rather than how He did things. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 15 points 10 months ago (1 child) Either that or Genesis is just an explanation made up by a people group that had little to no idea how anything in the natural world works lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) If you squint real hard, Genesis is a tale of stellar and planetary formation. Then comes evolution. Give the first bits a read! Yeah, evolution is mixed up a little, still surprisingly on point for a bunch of Bronze Age sheep herders. Then there's a second tale, in the same short book. What a clusterfuck. But I can still see some real history in it. If I squint real hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago Yeah seeing as the writers of the Pentateuch didn't even know what the stars were, I'm pretty sure that's all a coincidence lol. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Squint so hard your eyes are closed, maybe. Any overlap between biblical verse (translated through at least two languages) and modern scientific understanding is coincidental. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago Like a prophecy referencing cities burning being reimagined as a nuclear exchange instead of, you know, a fire. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 15 points 10 months ago (1 child) Either that or Genesis is just an explanation made up by a people group that had little to no idea how anything in the natural world works lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) If you squint real hard, Genesis is a tale of stellar and planetary formation. Then comes evolution. Give the first bits a read! Yeah, evolution is mixed up a little, still surprisingly on point for a bunch of Bronze Age sheep herders. Then there's a second tale, in the same short book. What a clusterfuck. But I can still see some real history in it. If I squint real hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago Yeah seeing as the writers of the Pentateuch didn't even know what the stars were, I'm pretty sure that's all a coincidence lol. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Squint so hard your eyes are closed, maybe. Any overlap between biblical verse (translated through at least two languages) and modern scientific understanding is coincidental. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago Like a prophecy referencing cities burning being reimagined as a nuclear exchange instead of, you know, a fire. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) If you squint real hard, Genesis is a tale of stellar and planetary formation. Then comes evolution. Give the first bits a read! Yeah, evolution is mixed up a little, still surprisingly on point for a bunch of Bronze Age sheep herders. Then there's a second tale, in the same short book. What a clusterfuck. But I can still see some real history in it. If I squint real hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago Yeah seeing as the writers of the Pentateuch didn't even know what the stars were, I'm pretty sure that's all a coincidence lol. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Squint so hard your eyes are closed, maybe. Any overlap between biblical verse (translated through at least two languages) and modern scientific understanding is coincidental. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago Like a prophecy referencing cities burning being reimagined as a nuclear exchange instead of, you know, a fire. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago Yeah seeing as the writers of the Pentateuch didn't even know what the stars were, I'm pretty sure that's all a coincidence lol. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Squint so hard your eyes are closed, maybe. Any overlap between biblical verse (translated through at least two languages) and modern scientific understanding is coincidental. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago Like a prophecy referencing cities burning being reimagined as a nuclear exchange instead of, you know, a fire. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago Like a prophecy referencing cities burning being reimagined as a nuclear exchange instead of, you know, a fire. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) I always thought 2 Peter 3:8 basically addressed this issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Wow! Nailed it! I had thought that as a young Christian, didn't know there was a verse for it. Lost my religion long ago BTW. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Wow! Nailed it! I had thought that as a young Christian, didn't know there was a verse for it. Lost my religion long ago BTW. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago What's weird is the young Earth thing is relatively new. Before the 1850s or so, you would be laughed out of the room. As ignorant as we were, naturalists were having a hard time trying to figure a world that was millions, or 10s of millions, of years old. Churches, of any stripe, sure as hell wasn't preaching it. And here we are, with the flat Earth idea being even newer. permalink fedilink source parent