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The Browser Wasn’t Enough, Google Wants To Control All Your Software (hackaday.com)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] 24 points 11 months ago (5 children)

For me, MitID in Denmark. 100% required for society and life here, requires Google Play Services now :(

I tried e/os on my Fairphone for a bit. I think I could make it all work okay enough besides that. I should write people at the government or something I guess?

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yes! Being active politically is always important.

    Be civil and polite at first, you want these people on your side after all. But don't be afraid to hold back if they respond with bullshit either. They are your representative, make them represent you and hold them to account if required.

    Encouraging friends and family to write is usually a good idea too.

    Not being politically engaged, I feel, is one of the main reasons for the downfall of democracy throughout the globe. Too many people think ticking a box every 4-5 years is all they need to do.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Don't use the app then? I have a key thing which works quite well. https://www.mitid.dk/en-gb/get-started-with-mitid/how-to-use-mitid/mitid-code-display/

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    TIL this exists. Super cool.

    Hvad koster det?

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Jeg tror det er gratis

    Edit:

    Jeg var lige inde og kigge på MitID hjemmesiden. De skriver selv at der ikke var noget problem uden play integrity. Men at de implementerede det alligevel:

    Therefore, an integrity check is now being introduced to ensure that the MitID app is downloaded from the certificed Google Play or Apple App Store, and to check whether Google or Apple consider the phone the app is running on to be compromised or not. This is happening even though there are no known cases of fraud with fake MitID apps.

    https://www.mitid.dk/en-gb/about-mitid/news/mitid-gets-an-extra-anti-fraud-mechanism/

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I don't know myself, but Graphene OS (on Google Pixel phones) has a pretty impressive sandbox layer for the play store and the apps it installs. It might be worth looking into if you're not aware of it currently. (But if you're aware of the Fairphone, I'm guessing you probably know about Graphene).

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I do, but as far as I was aware my Fairphone can't run Graphene? I would love to keep using my Fairphone over buying Google's hardware at this point

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    You are correct, Graphene only runs on Pixel phones. I know there's a few open mobile OS options out there but I've not spent any time researching them. There is a very good chance if you absolutely need an identification, then you can't get away from Android. Hopefully someone else sees your comment and has an answer.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    Then buy second-hand. You aren't giving Google any of your money, and you can focus on increasing your privacy.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    On graphene the release of the integrity API broke most of my gvt applications. I will have to buy a cheap android phone to be able to fill my taxes... I contacted them, they told me it is for security, I argued but it is useless. I have to buy an android phone or be punished for not filling my taxes. Amazing

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Also, only officially browser for MitID is fucking Chrome. Always works with Firefox or libreWolf, though. However, I have contacted MitID two times about issues. They are always referring that I should look at the help page supported OS/browser blah blah. They don't care about the part of the population that doesn't use Chrome. Ironic that the same government now screams and shouts about how we have become too reliant on US big tech... Idiotic tech noob politicians.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    I’ve never heard of that, so I looked it up. There definitely appear to be non-Google alternatives.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    What? You can't use an alternative app. It's government issued identification and required for life here.

    I (and as far as I can tell, all others) can't get it to work outside of android

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    https://international.kk.dk/live/online-self-services/mitid/mitid.

    1. Android app
    2. Apple app
    3. “Code display”
    4. “Code reader”

    Does not appear to “require” Android.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Fascinating. I knew about the key fob but not the little pedometer looking thing.

    I wonder how it actually works, since a lot of it is integrated into apps and I don't see a spot to instead type a code. I'll have to play with it

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