▲ 268 ▼ Hydrogen vehicles in Denmark left without fuel as all commercial refuelling stations shuttered (www.hydrogeninsight.com) submitted 2 years ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 81 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Unfortunately capitalism will keep killing things that are good for the environment while we spend 7 trillion subsidizing fossil fuels. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hydrogen really isn't good for the environment. You have to spend electricity to make it, then storing it is a massive issue just to turn it back into electricity. There's some advantage to it with very large and heavy vehicles, but not for cars. Batteries make a lot more sense for cars, and you can charge them almost anywhere (theoretically). I can see shipping and maybe trucking moving towards hydrogen at some point, especially since shipping in particular is an extremely convenient location to produce hydrogen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wish more people understood this. We aren't going to find a one size fits all replacement for oil. It's going to be using all the different renewable sources in different applications where they excel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] serratur@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 years ago It's because people dont understand that hydrogen is a energy carrier and if we want to produce it in e green way it is more comparable to batteries than petroleum. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Agreed. We're going to see hydrogen being used in industrial scaled uses in the future more than transportation. However, I just watched the video a few days ago about the Canadian mining company that is switching all of their mining equipment to battery electric. I thought that was pretty interesting - The mine operator flatly said that hydrogen wasn't financially viable. So I'm thinking hydrogen being used for steel manufacturing, chemical manufacturing and other major large scale materials processing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hypx@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago We're going to use hydrogen for all things transportation. It's pretty much the obvious next step since we still need chemical fuels. There is just too much BEV propaganda and peopled totally deluded about how transportation works. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hazdaz@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Haha someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. So you think 9 trillion couldn't be spent better than fossil fuel subsidies? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hydrogen really isn't good for the environment. You have to spend electricity to make it, then storing it is a massive issue just to turn it back into electricity. There's some advantage to it with very large and heavy vehicles, but not for cars. Batteries make a lot more sense for cars, and you can charge them almost anywhere (theoretically). I can see shipping and maybe trucking moving towards hydrogen at some point, especially since shipping in particular is an extremely convenient location to produce hydrogen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wish more people understood this. We aren't going to find a one size fits all replacement for oil. It's going to be using all the different renewable sources in different applications where they excel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] serratur@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 years ago It's because people dont understand that hydrogen is a energy carrier and if we want to produce it in e green way it is more comparable to batteries than petroleum. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Agreed. We're going to see hydrogen being used in industrial scaled uses in the future more than transportation. However, I just watched the video a few days ago about the Canadian mining company that is switching all of their mining equipment to battery electric. I thought that was pretty interesting - The mine operator flatly said that hydrogen wasn't financially viable. So I'm thinking hydrogen being used for steel manufacturing, chemical manufacturing and other major large scale materials processing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hypx@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago We're going to use hydrogen for all things transportation. It's pretty much the obvious next step since we still need chemical fuels. There is just too much BEV propaganda and peopled totally deluded about how transportation works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wish more people understood this. We aren't going to find a one size fits all replacement for oil. It's going to be using all the different renewable sources in different applications where they excel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] serratur@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 years ago It's because people dont understand that hydrogen is a energy carrier and if we want to produce it in e green way it is more comparable to batteries than petroleum. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] serratur@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 years ago It's because people dont understand that hydrogen is a energy carrier and if we want to produce it in e green way it is more comparable to batteries than petroleum. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Agreed. We're going to see hydrogen being used in industrial scaled uses in the future more than transportation. However, I just watched the video a few days ago about the Canadian mining company that is switching all of their mining equipment to battery electric. I thought that was pretty interesting - The mine operator flatly said that hydrogen wasn't financially viable. So I'm thinking hydrogen being used for steel manufacturing, chemical manufacturing and other major large scale materials processing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hypx@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago We're going to use hydrogen for all things transportation. It's pretty much the obvious next step since we still need chemical fuels. There is just too much BEV propaganda and peopled totally deluded about how transportation works. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hypx@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago We're going to use hydrogen for all things transportation. It's pretty much the obvious next step since we still need chemical fuels. There is just too much BEV propaganda and peopled totally deluded about how transportation works. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Hazdaz@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Haha someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. So you think 9 trillion couldn't be spent better than fossil fuel subsidies? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Haha someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. So you think 9 trillion couldn't be spent better than fossil fuel subsidies? permalink fedilink source parent