▲ 157 ▼ Hydrogen vehicles in Denmark left without fuel as all commercial refuelling stations shuttered (www.hydrogeninsight.com) submitted 2 years ago by veganpizza69@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world 47 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But if they're making the stations, they can use or manufacture green hydrogen. It just a matter of the political will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ch00f@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) But if they’re making the stations But they’re not. See: this article. They’re not profitable, and if they ever were, it was propped up by greenwashing a byproduct of natural gas production. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The article didn't link. Also, not profitable compared to what? Because running at a slight loss to decrease ghg emissions would still be worth it. Are there fully electric battery alternatives to use instead? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ch00f@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I’m referring to the article posted in this post. Stations are being shut down because they aren’t profitable. It doesn’t have to be compared to anything. If they can’t make hydrogen cheap enough, they can’t sell enough and they can’t sustain the business mode. The cheapest way to make hydrogen now is as a byproduct of natural gas production which is not as eco-friendly as anybody would hope. Hydrogen for consumer use is a boondoggle and waste of time. BEVs are here and work great on existing infrastructure (for L2 charging at least). I drive an EV and exclusively charge it at home. No special station required. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Absolutely. That's what I said originally. Consumer use never made sense. But busses or trains might still make sense since they'd have much more centralized infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) But if they’re making the stations But they’re not. See: this article. They’re not profitable, and if they ever were, it was propped up by greenwashing a byproduct of natural gas production. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The article didn't link. Also, not profitable compared to what? Because running at a slight loss to decrease ghg emissions would still be worth it. Are there fully electric battery alternatives to use instead? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ch00f@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I’m referring to the article posted in this post. Stations are being shut down because they aren’t profitable. It doesn’t have to be compared to anything. If they can’t make hydrogen cheap enough, they can’t sell enough and they can’t sustain the business mode. The cheapest way to make hydrogen now is as a byproduct of natural gas production which is not as eco-friendly as anybody would hope. Hydrogen for consumer use is a boondoggle and waste of time. BEVs are here and work great on existing infrastructure (for L2 charging at least). I drive an EV and exclusively charge it at home. No special station required. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Absolutely. That's what I said originally. Consumer use never made sense. But busses or trains might still make sense since they'd have much more centralized infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) The article didn't link. Also, not profitable compared to what? Because running at a slight loss to decrease ghg emissions would still be worth it. Are there fully electric battery alternatives to use instead? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ch00f@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I’m referring to the article posted in this post. Stations are being shut down because they aren’t profitable. It doesn’t have to be compared to anything. If they can’t make hydrogen cheap enough, they can’t sell enough and they can’t sustain the business mode. The cheapest way to make hydrogen now is as a byproduct of natural gas production which is not as eco-friendly as anybody would hope. Hydrogen for consumer use is a boondoggle and waste of time. BEVs are here and work great on existing infrastructure (for L2 charging at least). I drive an EV and exclusively charge it at home. No special station required. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Absolutely. That's what I said originally. Consumer use never made sense. But busses or trains might still make sense since they'd have much more centralized infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I’m referring to the article posted in this post. Stations are being shut down because they aren’t profitable. It doesn’t have to be compared to anything. If they can’t make hydrogen cheap enough, they can’t sell enough and they can’t sustain the business mode. The cheapest way to make hydrogen now is as a byproduct of natural gas production which is not as eco-friendly as anybody would hope. Hydrogen for consumer use is a boondoggle and waste of time. BEVs are here and work great on existing infrastructure (for L2 charging at least). I drive an EV and exclusively charge it at home. No special station required. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Absolutely. That's what I said originally. Consumer use never made sense. But busses or trains might still make sense since they'd have much more centralized infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Absolutely. That's what I said originally. Consumer use never made sense. But busses or trains might still make sense since they'd have much more centralized infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent