▲ 425 ▼ Bazzite has gained nearly 10k users in 3 months while other Fedora Atomic distros remain fairly stagnant (lemmy.ml) submitted 11 months ago* by marcie@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml 139 comments fedilink hide all child comments Generated via https://github.com/ublue-os/countme 10k added users since last post. Here are upstream Fedora numbers only
[–] brownmustardminion@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (5 children) Lots of shit-talking Bazzite... I don't game much but when I do it's on Fedora. What distro do you all recommend for my Windows buddy looking to switch to gaming on Linux? permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) Bazzite is the option for Windows converts that want a gaming focused Linux desktop. A lot of people are going to nitpick it to death, because they want "Literally Windows but without Microsoft". Which isn't happening while Linux has the market share it has. You either accept a few annoyances (while advocating for those annoyances to be fixed), or go back to Windows and accept Microsoft's authoritarian control of your computer. Bazzite is a solid desktop that's going to be really hard for a regular user to break, comes with Steam, Lutris, and Heroic built in, proprietary nvidia drivers installed, and is based on Fedora (Modern, stable, well supported). The only downside is KDE can be really easy to break if you're a new user unfamiliar with how customizing it works, but if you leave it default you're fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 11 months ago Just in the name of completeness, I wouldn't say that's the only downside. I definitely have some stability issues with Bazzite, only when gaming though. But game crashes, occasional OS crashes, that hasn't been exactly rare for me. But I will say, gaming is about the one thing in my life I'm almost unwilling to troubleshoot these days. Could be something specific to my setup that is uncommon for others, making my data point unhelpful. And by and large, I'd absolutely recommend it for any Windows user who wants an easily transferable user experience and broadly fantastic gaming support with minimal fuss. permalink fedilink source parent [–] marcie@lemmy.ml [S] 4 points 11 months ago People just don't like it because it's different and uses new tech permalink fedilink source parent [–] BehavioralClam@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago PopOS/Cosmis has native Nvidia support, works perfectly out of the box permalink fedilink source parent [–] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (1 child) CachyOS might be the easiest one that gives you something decent. It's basically an Arch Linux with slightly better compiler optimizations and tweaked kernels. Also a tweaked version of proton in the core repos. Started by a German dude so EU++ or something. And of course it's based on Arch Linux, which was started by a Canadian dude. It's on top of distrowatch too, but I have no idea what that implies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago Easy installer too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dyinoffmuha@lemmy.cif.su -1 points 11 months ago (2 children) Manjaro is the closest thing to Windows you're going to get. I recommend it with KDE. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) Because it sucks? 🙃 Like, seriously, Manjaro had so many problems already that were completely preventable, makes stupid mistakes, bloats itself up with nonsense and provides no stability improvement over Arch whatsoever (which is a bad thing). On the contrary, it apparently even introduces additional bugs. I'm not surprised they accidentally DDoS'ed the AUR, given they also have a docker script that spins up every single time an image is downloaded to push a change to git to increment a counter. Every. Single. Time. A full docker container. From scratch. I'd only ever recommend Manjaro to people I really don't like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mereo@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Please. Get a life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] dyinoffmuha@lemmy.cif.su -3 points 11 months ago You're doing a good job fitting in with your peers. Mission accomplished. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (2 children) Manjaro has also DDoS'd the AUR several times and is known for not keeping their certs up to date. Say no to manjaro https://github.com/arindas/manjarno permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mereo@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago sigh... Stop beating a dead horse. I've been using Manjaro since 2022 with absolutely no problems. Get over it! permalink fedilink source parent [–] dyinoffmuha@lemmy.cif.su -5 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Nice automated response. Pretty sure that hasn't been an issue for years. Linux Mint's website was hacked and they served a malicious ISO, but the useful idiot crowd never talks about that. The snowball effect is real, and if you can't see it then you're probably a part of it. The main reason why people hate on Manjaro is because it makes it easy to use a historically complicated distro. Anyone rational person who has been in the free software ecosystem for a substantial period of time will recognize that there are many morons, elitists, and losers who like to make things more complicated than they need to be to feel superior to others. Also, people don't like when another distro is better than theirs, which Manjaro is for the vast majority of rational users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) No one hates endeavouros yet it makes arch Linux easy to use. I don't see why endevouros isn't the better choice over manjaro. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nothanks@lemmy.4d2.org 1 point 1 week ago* (1 child) Just checking in to confirm #endevouros is the better choice in most cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago It's been 11 months and I haven't heard any talk about Manjaro for a while, not much about Endeavouros either. I'm sure Endeavouros is still a good choice but Cachyos has become really popular and I have started using it as my first arch based distro and it's great so far. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) Bazzite is the option for Windows converts that want a gaming focused Linux desktop. A lot of people are going to nitpick it to death, because they want "Literally Windows but without Microsoft". Which isn't happening while Linux has the market share it has. You either accept a few annoyances (while advocating for those annoyances to be fixed), or go back to Windows and accept Microsoft's authoritarian control of your computer. Bazzite is a solid desktop that's going to be really hard for a regular user to break, comes with Steam, Lutris, and Heroic built in, proprietary nvidia drivers installed, and is based on Fedora (Modern, stable, well supported). The only downside is KDE can be really easy to break if you're a new user unfamiliar with how customizing it works, but if you leave it default you're fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 11 months ago Just in the name of completeness, I wouldn't say that's the only downside. I definitely have some stability issues with Bazzite, only when gaming though. But game crashes, occasional OS crashes, that hasn't been exactly rare for me. But I will say, gaming is about the one thing in my life I'm almost unwilling to troubleshoot these days. Could be something specific to my setup that is uncommon for others, making my data point unhelpful. And by and large, I'd absolutely recommend it for any Windows user who wants an easily transferable user experience and broadly fantastic gaming support with minimal fuss. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 11 months ago Just in the name of completeness, I wouldn't say that's the only downside. I definitely have some stability issues with Bazzite, only when gaming though. But game crashes, occasional OS crashes, that hasn't been exactly rare for me. But I will say, gaming is about the one thing in my life I'm almost unwilling to troubleshoot these days. Could be something specific to my setup that is uncommon for others, making my data point unhelpful. And by and large, I'd absolutely recommend it for any Windows user who wants an easily transferable user experience and broadly fantastic gaming support with minimal fuss. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marcie@lemmy.ml [S] 4 points 11 months ago People just don't like it because it's different and uses new tech permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BehavioralClam@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago PopOS/Cosmis has native Nvidia support, works perfectly out of the box permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago* (1 child) CachyOS might be the easiest one that gives you something decent. It's basically an Arch Linux with slightly better compiler optimizations and tweaked kernels. Also a tweaked version of proton in the core repos. Started by a German dude so EU++ or something. And of course it's based on Arch Linux, which was started by a Canadian dude. It's on top of distrowatch too, but I have no idea what that implies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago Easy installer too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dyinoffmuha@lemmy.cif.su -1 points 11 months ago (2 children) Manjaro is the closest thing to Windows you're going to get. I recommend it with KDE. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) Because it sucks? 🙃 Like, seriously, Manjaro had so many problems already that were completely preventable, makes stupid mistakes, bloats itself up with nonsense and provides no stability improvement over Arch whatsoever (which is a bad thing). On the contrary, it apparently even introduces additional bugs. I'm not surprised they accidentally DDoS'ed the AUR, given they also have a docker script that spins up every single time an image is downloaded to push a change to git to increment a counter. Every. Single. Time. A full docker container. From scratch. I'd only ever recommend Manjaro to people I really don't like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mereo@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Please. Get a life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] dyinoffmuha@lemmy.cif.su -3 points 11 months ago You're doing a good job fitting in with your peers. Mission accomplished. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (2 children) Manjaro has also DDoS'd the AUR several times and is known for not keeping their certs up to date. Say no to manjaro https://github.com/arindas/manjarno permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mereo@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago sigh... Stop beating a dead horse. I've been using Manjaro since 2022 with absolutely no problems. Get over it! permalink fedilink source parent [–] dyinoffmuha@lemmy.cif.su -5 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Nice automated response. Pretty sure that hasn't been an issue for years. Linux Mint's website was hacked and they served a malicious ISO, but the useful idiot crowd never talks about that. The snowball effect is real, and if you can't see it then you're probably a part of it. The main reason why people hate on Manjaro is because it makes it easy to use a historically complicated distro. Anyone rational person who has been in the free software ecosystem for a substantial period of time will recognize that there are many morons, elitists, and losers who like to make things more complicated than they need to be to feel superior to others. Also, people don't like when another distro is better than theirs, which Manjaro is for the vast majority of rational users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) No one hates endeavouros yet it makes arch Linux easy to use. I don't see why endevouros isn't the better choice over manjaro. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nothanks@lemmy.4d2.org 1 point 1 week ago* (1 child) Just checking in to confirm #endevouros is the better choice in most cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago It's been 11 months and I haven't heard any talk about Manjaro for a while, not much about Endeavouros either. I'm sure Endeavouros is still a good choice but Cachyos has become really popular and I have started using it as my first arch based distro and it's great so far. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) Because it sucks? 🙃 Like, seriously, Manjaro had so many problems already that were completely preventable, makes stupid mistakes, bloats itself up with nonsense and provides no stability improvement over Arch whatsoever (which is a bad thing). On the contrary, it apparently even introduces additional bugs. I'm not surprised they accidentally DDoS'ed the AUR, given they also have a docker script that spins up every single time an image is downloaded to push a change to git to increment a counter. Every. Single. Time. A full docker container. From scratch. I'd only ever recommend Manjaro to people I really don't like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mereo@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Please. Get a life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] dyinoffmuha@lemmy.cif.su -3 points 11 months ago You're doing a good job fitting in with your peers. Mission accomplished. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Please. Get a life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dyinoffmuha@lemmy.cif.su -3 points 11 months ago You're doing a good job fitting in with your peers. Mission accomplished. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (2 children) Manjaro has also DDoS'd the AUR several times and is known for not keeping their certs up to date. Say no to manjaro https://github.com/arindas/manjarno permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mereo@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago sigh... Stop beating a dead horse. I've been using Manjaro since 2022 with absolutely no problems. Get over it! permalink fedilink source parent [–] dyinoffmuha@lemmy.cif.su -5 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Nice automated response. Pretty sure that hasn't been an issue for years. Linux Mint's website was hacked and they served a malicious ISO, but the useful idiot crowd never talks about that. The snowball effect is real, and if you can't see it then you're probably a part of it. The main reason why people hate on Manjaro is because it makes it easy to use a historically complicated distro. Anyone rational person who has been in the free software ecosystem for a substantial period of time will recognize that there are many morons, elitists, and losers who like to make things more complicated than they need to be to feel superior to others. Also, people don't like when another distro is better than theirs, which Manjaro is for the vast majority of rational users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) No one hates endeavouros yet it makes arch Linux easy to use. I don't see why endevouros isn't the better choice over manjaro. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nothanks@lemmy.4d2.org 1 point 1 week ago* (1 child) Just checking in to confirm #endevouros is the better choice in most cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago It's been 11 months and I haven't heard any talk about Manjaro for a while, not much about Endeavouros either. I'm sure Endeavouros is still a good choice but Cachyos has become really popular and I have started using it as my first arch based distro and it's great so far. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago sigh... Stop beating a dead horse. I've been using Manjaro since 2022 with absolutely no problems. Get over it! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dyinoffmuha@lemmy.cif.su -5 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Nice automated response. Pretty sure that hasn't been an issue for years. Linux Mint's website was hacked and they served a malicious ISO, but the useful idiot crowd never talks about that. The snowball effect is real, and if you can't see it then you're probably a part of it. The main reason why people hate on Manjaro is because it makes it easy to use a historically complicated distro. Anyone rational person who has been in the free software ecosystem for a substantial period of time will recognize that there are many morons, elitists, and losers who like to make things more complicated than they need to be to feel superior to others. Also, people don't like when another distro is better than theirs, which Manjaro is for the vast majority of rational users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) No one hates endeavouros yet it makes arch Linux easy to use. I don't see why endevouros isn't the better choice over manjaro. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nothanks@lemmy.4d2.org 1 point 1 week ago* (1 child) Just checking in to confirm #endevouros is the better choice in most cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago It's been 11 months and I haven't heard any talk about Manjaro for a while, not much about Endeavouros either. I'm sure Endeavouros is still a good choice but Cachyos has become really popular and I have started using it as my first arch based distro and it's great so far. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) No one hates endeavouros yet it makes arch Linux easy to use. I don't see why endevouros isn't the better choice over manjaro. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nothanks@lemmy.4d2.org 1 point 1 week ago* (1 child) Just checking in to confirm #endevouros is the better choice in most cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago It's been 11 months and I haven't heard any talk about Manjaro for a while, not much about Endeavouros either. I'm sure Endeavouros is still a good choice but Cachyos has become really popular and I have started using it as my first arch based distro and it's great so far. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nothanks@lemmy.4d2.org 1 point 1 week ago* (1 child) Just checking in to confirm #endevouros is the better choice in most cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago It's been 11 months and I haven't heard any talk about Manjaro for a while, not much about Endeavouros either. I'm sure Endeavouros is still a good choice but Cachyos has become really popular and I have started using it as my first arch based distro and it's great so far. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago It's been 11 months and I haven't heard any talk about Manjaro for a while, not much about Endeavouros either. I'm sure Endeavouros is still a good choice but Cachyos has become really popular and I have started using it as my first arch based distro and it's great so far. permalink fedilink source parent