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I like the web app more. (lemmy.world)
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[–] 91 points 3 years ago (5 children)

ya went a little too far at the end there. nothing wrong with not wanting to pay a subscription fee lol. its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

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  • [–] 63 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (5 children)

    its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

    Do you think professional independent developers shouldn't be paid for their work? Do you think this kind of development is effortless?

    I don't understand why people keep parroting this. The app is free. It's a professionally developed app, where the quality tradeoff is either ads (which can be blocked) or your choice of ad removal payments.

    This isn't some company trying to exploit the community here, this is a full time app developer who just had his livelihood completely cut off. People begged him to make a version for Lemmy, and he did. He deserves to be paid for the hours and work he put in to make it happen. You can't make an app if you can't buy food or pay rent.

    And if you don't like that, then don't use it. He's never pressured users into paying, and he's never suggested everyone on Lemmy should just send him money. He isn't even spamming posts advertising the app, enthusiastic users are.

    Why is everyone so upset?

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I'm not the one who's upset. Look at the guy I replied to. I'm literally not using the app and it's not my responsibility to support the creator lol. I'm literally just saying I'm not a cheapskate because I'm not using your paid alternative.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    No one is calling you a cheapskate. It's just that when you said this:

    its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

    ...in context, it comes off as "Sync is not necessary to exist, therefore no one should pay him."

    I understand what you mean now, but you worded it terribly.

    And by the way, going around in the comments being unnecessarily hostile and calling people "dumbfuck" or "asshole," when they were just as confused at your poor phrasing, makes you come off as an asshole, so maybe work on that :)

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    God I'm looking forward to lemmy now.

    Thank you. The social dysfunction I've been seeing here is staggering.

    Been here since well... Spez spez'd. So happy to have Sync for what I can use it for and the promise of full function.

    He's a good dev. This is a lot of change for this poor little instance to process as a deluge of us all geeked out at one time.

    We gotta donate to the server tho. Not enough to get the app.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    No one is calling you a cheapskate.

    Dude read the comment I was replying to...

    it comes off as "Sync is not necessary to exist, therefore no one should pay him."

    I did not say any of those words. wtf. I didn't word shit terribly, you just made stuff up.

    makes you come off as an asshole, so maybe work on that :)

    Whether or not this is passive aggressive, it sounds like it is, which makes you come off as an asshole, so maybe work on that :)

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    No one is calling you a cheapskate.

    Dude read the comment I was replying to...

    He was definitely talking about people using the app and complaining that they can't have it all for free. You're not one of those people.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    The original post is about someone using a free app (the web app). They check out Sync and see that it has ads and costs money otherwise, and that cost has no regional pricing (apparently). So they continue to use the web app. It's a fair complaint and it doesn't make them a cheapskate. Doesn't have anything to do with other people's choices. Doesn't mean the dev is an evil person. It's a just a bruh moment they had.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Sure, but the comment you were replying to was talking about people using the free version of sync. They didn't say people are cheapskates because they don't want to pay for an app they don't use.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    i said don't need not don't use. its such a ridiculous comment to call people cheapskates. this defence of Sync is wild in these comments.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    You said you're not using the app. I'm not defending sync, just clarifying. You're taking it personally but it wasn't actually directed at you at all.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    im defending the people it was directed at

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago

    Fair enough - I thought you were speaking from your own point of view because you said

    I'm literally not using the app and it's not my responsibility to support the creator lol. I'm literally just saying I'm not a cheapskate because I'm not using your paid alternative.

    There are lots of people out there that use sync, have always been unhappy with certain things and want certain things and aren't happy to pay for the app - in the reddit days at least. I'm sure they will be here for the lemmy app too. It's those people I took the comment to be directed at.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Why is everyone so upset?

    You know why, it's because in the eyes of Lemmy users who have been here all along, launch of Sync is the start of their eternal September. I moved to reddit back in 2010 as a Digg refugee after the infamous redesign, I saw much of the same back then (down to the plethora of programming and Linux memes).

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Sync isn't trying to replace all Lemmy frontends or other FOSS apps, it's trying to provide a Reddit-like experience for people who miss it.

    People just find reasons to be upset, I swear.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    It's the reason lemmy is struggling, it's mainly Linux gatekeepers and foss elitists. Along with lemmy needing a slight learning period, the community just spews toxic shit relentlessly.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    FOSS is elitism?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    No. Elitists are the ones who are elitists. They just chose FOSS as their high horse to be holier than though. To beat the vegan horse I'm going to use Linux users as an example.

    Anytime anyone irl talks about Linux it's not really about how great Linux has met their needs. It's usually about how great it is that it isn't windows.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 years ago

    This isn’t some company trying to exploit the community here, this is a full time app developer who just had his livelihood completely cut off.

    A full time app developer who likely made millions off reddit and then threw his toys out of the cot when they asked to be paid. Instead of charging a subscription fee there, he came here and added ads to his app, charges you to remove them, and added a subscription fee lol.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Complaining about a $20 purchase you don't have to make qualifies for "cheapskate" I think. Simply not purchasing it, or not wanting to purchase it, is fine. The difference is entitlement.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    If you don't need it just don't buy it. You're bitching about someone wanting money for their hard work.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Not to mention, there are still a bunch of free options in other apps. Voyager, Memmy, modem, liftoff!, etc. Use one of those if you’re too cheap to pay for someone else’s work, yknow?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I FUCKING ALREADY AM

    WHY DOES NOT BUYING SYNC MAKE ME CHEAP? Look! A guy made an app that costs money! What? You don't want to use it? You're cheap!

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    I mean…I don’t use it. But I’m not the one bitching about $20.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago*

    i never bitched about $20. its so funny how many times i had to explain this. i didnt use the app because i already had a free app that i dont pay for. i see no reason to use the paid app. somehow that completely reasonable decision makes me a "cheapskate". I dont even know how you could read what I just said and think that reply would make sense.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    He didn't go too far. It is a broad and overbearing, but generally accurate statement.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    How? I don't want to pay for an app when I have one that satisfies my needs for free.That doesn't make me a cheapskate. I was using this before Sync was even available. I can express my opinions about it too. I don't think it's worth the money when the service is already free and I don't like it's tactics to make you pay. But again, why would I care if someone paid for Sync? I'm not going to call all Sync users money wasters. Clearly they found value in it. People who didn't aren't just cheapskates

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Nothing works for "free" they ask for donations. And just cuz you don't wanna use an app doesn't make it useless or an app "we don't need". Also there's not "tactics" to make you pay, guy's just asking you to pay to remove ads, they made the app, it's their choice how it should work. You're not expected to buy it or use it, it's just out there as an option if you want to.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    It is free, in both meanings of the word. Donations are donations. I didn't say it was useless and by "we" i mean all the people that guy called cheapskate. They are tactics. Never said it wasn't their choice. For the last time, I don't use the fucking app. That doesn't make me a cheapskate. This is the most ridiculous comment section. The original guy was shitting on others for NOT using the app. I don't fucking caaaare what people use. Good lord.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It's the implication that the sync dev is doing something nefarious by charging to remove ads from the free app they developed.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I didn't imply that. I don't like the ad model and I think it's bad for people. How many times are people going to try to make this dev sound like the most humble person ever. The poor dev made this free app and you wont support them. Dude can and already has made money. I'm not saying not to support independent devs. I'm saying I don't like the model and that's my fucking choice to not use it. I'm fine with Jerboa and I'm not a cheapskate because I wasn't convinced to use Sync. This is the most bizarre opposition I've ever faced.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    It's not really bizarre. You're digging in to something and responding to each comment, and every time you do, you talk from a perspective that to others is obviously flawed. In every comment you said "noooo I'm not a cheapskate, I just want an app for free" and that is amusing.

    You're the asshole who posts useless bug reports on GitHub but never donates. Get the 🦆 out of my project issues.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    I literally said I donate dumbass. I don't want Sync for free cunt. I don't want Sync at all if it uses ads I have to pay to remove when I have a free alternative. That's not a cheapskate decision. That's called not wasting my fucking money. If someone likes Sync, then it isn't a waste for them.

    And I reply each time you do. Doesn't take that long. Beyond that, the people digging this far are like you. My original comments are upvoted so clearly I'm not against everyone here...

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