▲ 841 ▼ Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features worth up to $15,000 (electrek.co) submitted 3 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 109 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] starlinguk@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago (3 children) It's cheaper to build identical cars than it is to add certain features to some and not to others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Neato@kbin.social 28 points 3 years ago (1 child) If it's cheaper then they should include it. It's like being cheaper to make a more powerful engine then software limiting the car to only go to so many RPMs or speed. It's that John Deere bullshit all over again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Lots of car manufacturers already do that to keep models in line. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArtificialLink@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 years ago Doesn't make it any less scummy. Its just an artificial inflation of price. permalink fedilink source parent [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) That will hold true until the manufacturers realize that there will always be someone smart enough to break their software lock, and on a car, there’s always ample incentive to do so. Literally begging for people to hack your shit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] poop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) They’ll just sue them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago Assuming they can find them, sure permalink fedilink source parent [–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) @there1snospoon @starlinguk Problem is there will never be a recall because of automaker's greed, and that hacked software isn't a danger to life ... yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I wouldn’t expect them to recall. More likely that it will void all warranties and if you ever bring it to a dealership for anything they lock it and charge you for it. Or they go the DRM route and force cars to be always online to verify the software, and going offline locks out those extra features. Also possibly pushing for laws making hacking obscenely punishable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) @there1snospoon Why would they charge a customer for a hack? It's not like the customer has any control over the software/firmware the company uses? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago* To be fair I’m imagining the worst outcomes possible, but they certainly wouldn’t let the vehicle leave with the hack in place I’d imagine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Neato@kbin.social 28 points 3 years ago (1 child) If it's cheaper then they should include it. It's like being cheaper to make a more powerful engine then software limiting the car to only go to so many RPMs or speed. It's that John Deere bullshit all over again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Lots of car manufacturers already do that to keep models in line. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Lots of car manufacturers already do that to keep models in line. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArtificialLink@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 years ago Doesn't make it any less scummy. Its just an artificial inflation of price. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 6 points 3 years ago (2 children) That will hold true until the manufacturers realize that there will always be someone smart enough to break their software lock, and on a car, there’s always ample incentive to do so. Literally begging for people to hack your shit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] poop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) They’ll just sue them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago Assuming they can find them, sure permalink fedilink source parent [–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) @there1snospoon @starlinguk Problem is there will never be a recall because of automaker's greed, and that hacked software isn't a danger to life ... yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I wouldn’t expect them to recall. More likely that it will void all warranties and if you ever bring it to a dealership for anything they lock it and charge you for it. Or they go the DRM route and force cars to be always online to verify the software, and going offline locks out those extra features. Also possibly pushing for laws making hacking obscenely punishable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) @there1snospoon Why would they charge a customer for a hack? It's not like the customer has any control over the software/firmware the company uses? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago* To be fair I’m imagining the worst outcomes possible, but they certainly wouldn’t let the vehicle leave with the hack in place I’d imagine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] poop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) They’ll just sue them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago Assuming they can find them, sure permalink fedilink source parent
[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago Assuming they can find them, sure permalink fedilink source parent
[–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) @there1snospoon @starlinguk Problem is there will never be a recall because of automaker's greed, and that hacked software isn't a danger to life ... yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I wouldn’t expect them to recall. More likely that it will void all warranties and if you ever bring it to a dealership for anything they lock it and charge you for it. Or they go the DRM route and force cars to be always online to verify the software, and going offline locks out those extra features. Also possibly pushing for laws making hacking obscenely punishable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) @there1snospoon Why would they charge a customer for a hack? It's not like the customer has any control over the software/firmware the company uses? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago* To be fair I’m imagining the worst outcomes possible, but they certainly wouldn’t let the vehicle leave with the hack in place I’d imagine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I wouldn’t expect them to recall. More likely that it will void all warranties and if you ever bring it to a dealership for anything they lock it and charge you for it. Or they go the DRM route and force cars to be always online to verify the software, and going offline locks out those extra features. Also possibly pushing for laws making hacking obscenely punishable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) @there1snospoon Why would they charge a customer for a hack? It's not like the customer has any control over the software/firmware the company uses? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago* To be fair I’m imagining the worst outcomes possible, but they certainly wouldn’t let the vehicle leave with the hack in place I’d imagine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) @there1snospoon Why would they charge a customer for a hack? It's not like the customer has any control over the software/firmware the company uses? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago* To be fair I’m imagining the worst outcomes possible, but they certainly wouldn’t let the vehicle leave with the hack in place I’d imagine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 years ago* To be fair I’m imagining the worst outcomes possible, but they certainly wouldn’t let the vehicle leave with the hack in place I’d imagine. permalink fedilink source parent