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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago* (5 children) I'm not going to get excited until Mamdani wins and actually does what he promises. Speeches and vocal support aren't worth anything anymore. Still, solid meme that makes a good point. permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 child) Fair, but do show up and vote please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I always vote, not that it matters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago It does matter, but its also just one part of building out our progressive movement permalink fedilink source parent [+] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I don't doubt Mamdani, I doubt the NYC City Council. They're gonna be a huge roadblock. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Yes, but Mamdani has shown his willingness to fight for us. Even if he can’t pull off all his agenda, it’s still better than the alternative candidates who won’t even try. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Good point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) It may just be me, but Mamdani just reminds me very much of 2007-2008 Obama, who himself was massively popular and saying all the right things, and then opted to rule as a conservative and helped usher along US fascism in the end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children) I feel Mamdani might be different since he openly and unflinchingly said he doesn't like capitalism, something that many politicians are afraid to do. And he is a member of DSA which Obama isn't a member of so that is something of a solid credential for Mamdani. But only time will tell if he sticks to his promises and conviction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children) He's saying a lot of the right things. The question is what he'll do when he realizes that being the mayor of NYC means he and his family have the opportunity to accrue generational wealth if they just play ball with the bad guys. Obama's answer to that was: "I'll do whatever you want." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anyone can do anything, so obviously we can’t say definitively what Mamdani might do, but comparing him to Obama is disingenuous nonsense. Obama never said the workers owning the means of production was the ultimate goal; he was never a socialist and never espoused leftist beliefs personally, regardless of policy. Furthermore, all Obama did was talk about hope and change. He coasted into office on empty rhetoric, whereas Mamdani has been crystal clear about his policy goals right from the start. Saying a politician could bail once in office is reasonable, but comparing these two is unbounded idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Did Obama actually said that? I don't know if it's true, but I heard that Obama told Bernie that he can't be the good guy and be president. Corruption aside, once getting into position of political power, it is actually harder to maintain it because of different stakeholders involved. Take the military industrial complex, for example. We rightly chastise its profit taking motive by artificially inducing wars. But the sad truth is that they are jobs providers to peripheral places where there are little to no opportunities for many, especially in the desert states in the American Southwest and in isolated regions of Scotland and Northern England in the case of UK. No politicians want to be branded as jobs destroyer. Even without the opportunity for personal corruption, balancing genuine concerns and interests is a hard juggling act for any politicians. And that's not even including campaign financing and its trap of being beholden to the donor. Unfortunately, there is strong correlation between electoral success and how much money is thrown into the campaigning. It is one factor as to why the Citizens United was allowed by the US Supreme Court. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Did Obama actually said that? Absolutely he did. He stood aside when Occupy was brutalized. He did nothing meaningful to help consumers during the foreclosure crisis. He gave the MIC seven wars at once during his presidency. (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, and Libya.) He made sure the big banks got their bailouts. His promise of universal health care morphed into 'access to health care', which of course, only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. Hell, he walked into Flint and pretended to take a drink of water as a political stunt, when he and everyone in that room knew their water was still poisoned with lead. Obama was a massively corrupt president, and one of the biggest disappointments in American history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. The last time i tried to get insurance on the exchange, they said it would be 5 thousand dollars. I said "5000 dollars a year? that seems high" they said "Oh, no sir. 5000 dollars a month" I said "Goodbye" and hung up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago Wtf? I thought 500 a month was robbery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) “And I continued not having health insurance because that’s true compassion in a Christian nation.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yep. Still no health insurance. Everything out of pocket, and because its all out of pocket I only go to the doctor once a year, and ignore any issue that isnt worth an ER visit permalink fedilink source parent [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] obrien_must_suffer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Thank you for your commentary. I hope you have a wonderful Saturday afternoon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago Time, and a constant light show around him to help any would-be assassins miss. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Nothing inspires apathy like the 40 years of Democrats doing the wrong thing and making it so food and shelter are cost-prohibitive for tens of millions. I'll believe Mamdani is the real deal when he shows me. It's unreasonable to expect Democrats to do the things they say they're going to do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago You are worried about that over them cheating him over? Wtf make it make sense permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 child) Fair, but do show up and vote please permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I always vote, not that it matters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago It does matter, but its also just one part of building out our progressive movement permalink fedilink source parent [+] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I always vote, not that it matters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago It does matter, but its also just one part of building out our progressive movement permalink fedilink source parent [+] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago It does matter, but its also just one part of building out our progressive movement permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I don't doubt Mamdani, I doubt the NYC City Council. They're gonna be a huge roadblock. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Yes, but Mamdani has shown his willingness to fight for us. Even if he can’t pull off all his agenda, it’s still better than the alternative candidates who won’t even try. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Yes, but Mamdani has shown his willingness to fight for us. Even if he can’t pull off all his agenda, it’s still better than the alternative candidates who won’t even try. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Good point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) It may just be me, but Mamdani just reminds me very much of 2007-2008 Obama, who himself was massively popular and saying all the right things, and then opted to rule as a conservative and helped usher along US fascism in the end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children) I feel Mamdani might be different since he openly and unflinchingly said he doesn't like capitalism, something that many politicians are afraid to do. And he is a member of DSA which Obama isn't a member of so that is something of a solid credential for Mamdani. But only time will tell if he sticks to his promises and conviction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children) He's saying a lot of the right things. The question is what he'll do when he realizes that being the mayor of NYC means he and his family have the opportunity to accrue generational wealth if they just play ball with the bad guys. Obama's answer to that was: "I'll do whatever you want." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anyone can do anything, so obviously we can’t say definitively what Mamdani might do, but comparing him to Obama is disingenuous nonsense. Obama never said the workers owning the means of production was the ultimate goal; he was never a socialist and never espoused leftist beliefs personally, regardless of policy. Furthermore, all Obama did was talk about hope and change. He coasted into office on empty rhetoric, whereas Mamdani has been crystal clear about his policy goals right from the start. Saying a politician could bail once in office is reasonable, but comparing these two is unbounded idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Did Obama actually said that? I don't know if it's true, but I heard that Obama told Bernie that he can't be the good guy and be president. Corruption aside, once getting into position of political power, it is actually harder to maintain it because of different stakeholders involved. Take the military industrial complex, for example. We rightly chastise its profit taking motive by artificially inducing wars. But the sad truth is that they are jobs providers to peripheral places where there are little to no opportunities for many, especially in the desert states in the American Southwest and in isolated regions of Scotland and Northern England in the case of UK. No politicians want to be branded as jobs destroyer. Even without the opportunity for personal corruption, balancing genuine concerns and interests is a hard juggling act for any politicians. And that's not even including campaign financing and its trap of being beholden to the donor. Unfortunately, there is strong correlation between electoral success and how much money is thrown into the campaigning. It is one factor as to why the Citizens United was allowed by the US Supreme Court. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Did Obama actually said that? Absolutely he did. He stood aside when Occupy was brutalized. He did nothing meaningful to help consumers during the foreclosure crisis. He gave the MIC seven wars at once during his presidency. (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, and Libya.) He made sure the big banks got their bailouts. His promise of universal health care morphed into 'access to health care', which of course, only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. Hell, he walked into Flint and pretended to take a drink of water as a political stunt, when he and everyone in that room knew their water was still poisoned with lead. Obama was a massively corrupt president, and one of the biggest disappointments in American history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. The last time i tried to get insurance on the exchange, they said it would be 5 thousand dollars. I said "5000 dollars a year? that seems high" they said "Oh, no sir. 5000 dollars a month" I said "Goodbye" and hung up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago Wtf? I thought 500 a month was robbery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) “And I continued not having health insurance because that’s true compassion in a Christian nation.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yep. Still no health insurance. Everything out of pocket, and because its all out of pocket I only go to the doctor once a year, and ignore any issue that isnt worth an ER visit permalink fedilink source parent [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] obrien_must_suffer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Thank you for your commentary. I hope you have a wonderful Saturday afternoon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago Time, and a constant light show around him to help any would-be assassins miss. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) It may just be me, but Mamdani just reminds me very much of 2007-2008 Obama, who himself was massively popular and saying all the right things, and then opted to rule as a conservative and helped usher along US fascism in the end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children) I feel Mamdani might be different since he openly and unflinchingly said he doesn't like capitalism, something that many politicians are afraid to do. And he is a member of DSA which Obama isn't a member of so that is something of a solid credential for Mamdani. But only time will tell if he sticks to his promises and conviction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children) He's saying a lot of the right things. The question is what he'll do when he realizes that being the mayor of NYC means he and his family have the opportunity to accrue generational wealth if they just play ball with the bad guys. Obama's answer to that was: "I'll do whatever you want." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anyone can do anything, so obviously we can’t say definitively what Mamdani might do, but comparing him to Obama is disingenuous nonsense. Obama never said the workers owning the means of production was the ultimate goal; he was never a socialist and never espoused leftist beliefs personally, regardless of policy. Furthermore, all Obama did was talk about hope and change. He coasted into office on empty rhetoric, whereas Mamdani has been crystal clear about his policy goals right from the start. Saying a politician could bail once in office is reasonable, but comparing these two is unbounded idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Did Obama actually said that? I don't know if it's true, but I heard that Obama told Bernie that he can't be the good guy and be president. Corruption aside, once getting into position of political power, it is actually harder to maintain it because of different stakeholders involved. Take the military industrial complex, for example. We rightly chastise its profit taking motive by artificially inducing wars. But the sad truth is that they are jobs providers to peripheral places where there are little to no opportunities for many, especially in the desert states in the American Southwest and in isolated regions of Scotland and Northern England in the case of UK. No politicians want to be branded as jobs destroyer. Even without the opportunity for personal corruption, balancing genuine concerns and interests is a hard juggling act for any politicians. And that's not even including campaign financing and its trap of being beholden to the donor. Unfortunately, there is strong correlation between electoral success and how much money is thrown into the campaigning. It is one factor as to why the Citizens United was allowed by the US Supreme Court. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Did Obama actually said that? Absolutely he did. He stood aside when Occupy was brutalized. He did nothing meaningful to help consumers during the foreclosure crisis. He gave the MIC seven wars at once during his presidency. (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, and Libya.) He made sure the big banks got their bailouts. His promise of universal health care morphed into 'access to health care', which of course, only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. Hell, he walked into Flint and pretended to take a drink of water as a political stunt, when he and everyone in that room knew their water was still poisoned with lead. Obama was a massively corrupt president, and one of the biggest disappointments in American history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. The last time i tried to get insurance on the exchange, they said it would be 5 thousand dollars. I said "5000 dollars a year? that seems high" they said "Oh, no sir. 5000 dollars a month" I said "Goodbye" and hung up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago Wtf? I thought 500 a month was robbery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) “And I continued not having health insurance because that’s true compassion in a Christian nation.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yep. Still no health insurance. Everything out of pocket, and because its all out of pocket I only go to the doctor once a year, and ignore any issue that isnt worth an ER visit permalink fedilink source parent [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] obrien_must_suffer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Thank you for your commentary. I hope you have a wonderful Saturday afternoon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago Time, and a constant light show around him to help any would-be assassins miss. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children) I feel Mamdani might be different since he openly and unflinchingly said he doesn't like capitalism, something that many politicians are afraid to do. And he is a member of DSA which Obama isn't a member of so that is something of a solid credential for Mamdani. But only time will tell if he sticks to his promises and conviction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children) He's saying a lot of the right things. The question is what he'll do when he realizes that being the mayor of NYC means he and his family have the opportunity to accrue generational wealth if they just play ball with the bad guys. Obama's answer to that was: "I'll do whatever you want." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anyone can do anything, so obviously we can’t say definitively what Mamdani might do, but comparing him to Obama is disingenuous nonsense. Obama never said the workers owning the means of production was the ultimate goal; he was never a socialist and never espoused leftist beliefs personally, regardless of policy. Furthermore, all Obama did was talk about hope and change. He coasted into office on empty rhetoric, whereas Mamdani has been crystal clear about his policy goals right from the start. Saying a politician could bail once in office is reasonable, but comparing these two is unbounded idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Did Obama actually said that? I don't know if it's true, but I heard that Obama told Bernie that he can't be the good guy and be president. Corruption aside, once getting into position of political power, it is actually harder to maintain it because of different stakeholders involved. Take the military industrial complex, for example. We rightly chastise its profit taking motive by artificially inducing wars. But the sad truth is that they are jobs providers to peripheral places where there are little to no opportunities for many, especially in the desert states in the American Southwest and in isolated regions of Scotland and Northern England in the case of UK. No politicians want to be branded as jobs destroyer. Even without the opportunity for personal corruption, balancing genuine concerns and interests is a hard juggling act for any politicians. And that's not even including campaign financing and its trap of being beholden to the donor. Unfortunately, there is strong correlation between electoral success and how much money is thrown into the campaigning. It is one factor as to why the Citizens United was allowed by the US Supreme Court. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Did Obama actually said that? Absolutely he did. He stood aside when Occupy was brutalized. He did nothing meaningful to help consumers during the foreclosure crisis. He gave the MIC seven wars at once during his presidency. (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, and Libya.) He made sure the big banks got their bailouts. His promise of universal health care morphed into 'access to health care', which of course, only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. Hell, he walked into Flint and pretended to take a drink of water as a political stunt, when he and everyone in that room knew their water was still poisoned with lead. Obama was a massively corrupt president, and one of the biggest disappointments in American history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. The last time i tried to get insurance on the exchange, they said it would be 5 thousand dollars. I said "5000 dollars a year? that seems high" they said "Oh, no sir. 5000 dollars a month" I said "Goodbye" and hung up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago Wtf? I thought 500 a month was robbery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) “And I continued not having health insurance because that’s true compassion in a Christian nation.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yep. Still no health insurance. Everything out of pocket, and because its all out of pocket I only go to the doctor once a year, and ignore any issue that isnt worth an ER visit permalink fedilink source parent [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] obrien_must_suffer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Thank you for your commentary. I hope you have a wonderful Saturday afternoon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago Time, and a constant light show around him to help any would-be assassins miss. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children) He's saying a lot of the right things. The question is what he'll do when he realizes that being the mayor of NYC means he and his family have the opportunity to accrue generational wealth if they just play ball with the bad guys. Obama's answer to that was: "I'll do whatever you want." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anyone can do anything, so obviously we can’t say definitively what Mamdani might do, but comparing him to Obama is disingenuous nonsense. Obama never said the workers owning the means of production was the ultimate goal; he was never a socialist and never espoused leftist beliefs personally, regardless of policy. Furthermore, all Obama did was talk about hope and change. He coasted into office on empty rhetoric, whereas Mamdani has been crystal clear about his policy goals right from the start. Saying a politician could bail once in office is reasonable, but comparing these two is unbounded idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Did Obama actually said that? I don't know if it's true, but I heard that Obama told Bernie that he can't be the good guy and be president. Corruption aside, once getting into position of political power, it is actually harder to maintain it because of different stakeholders involved. Take the military industrial complex, for example. We rightly chastise its profit taking motive by artificially inducing wars. But the sad truth is that they are jobs providers to peripheral places where there are little to no opportunities for many, especially in the desert states in the American Southwest and in isolated regions of Scotland and Northern England in the case of UK. No politicians want to be branded as jobs destroyer. Even without the opportunity for personal corruption, balancing genuine concerns and interests is a hard juggling act for any politicians. And that's not even including campaign financing and its trap of being beholden to the donor. Unfortunately, there is strong correlation between electoral success and how much money is thrown into the campaigning. It is one factor as to why the Citizens United was allowed by the US Supreme Court. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Did Obama actually said that? Absolutely he did. He stood aside when Occupy was brutalized. He did nothing meaningful to help consumers during the foreclosure crisis. He gave the MIC seven wars at once during his presidency. (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, and Libya.) He made sure the big banks got their bailouts. His promise of universal health care morphed into 'access to health care', which of course, only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. Hell, he walked into Flint and pretended to take a drink of water as a political stunt, when he and everyone in that room knew their water was still poisoned with lead. Obama was a massively corrupt president, and one of the biggest disappointments in American history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. The last time i tried to get insurance on the exchange, they said it would be 5 thousand dollars. I said "5000 dollars a year? that seems high" they said "Oh, no sir. 5000 dollars a month" I said "Goodbye" and hung up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago Wtf? I thought 500 a month was robbery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) “And I continued not having health insurance because that’s true compassion in a Christian nation.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yep. Still no health insurance. Everything out of pocket, and because its all out of pocket I only go to the doctor once a year, and ignore any issue that isnt worth an ER visit permalink fedilink source parent [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] obrien_must_suffer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Thank you for your commentary. I hope you have a wonderful Saturday afternoon. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anyone can do anything, so obviously we can’t say definitively what Mamdani might do, but comparing him to Obama is disingenuous nonsense. Obama never said the workers owning the means of production was the ultimate goal; he was never a socialist and never espoused leftist beliefs personally, regardless of policy. Furthermore, all Obama did was talk about hope and change. He coasted into office on empty rhetoric, whereas Mamdani has been crystal clear about his policy goals right from the start. Saying a politician could bail once in office is reasonable, but comparing these two is unbounded idiocy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Did Obama actually said that? I don't know if it's true, but I heard that Obama told Bernie that he can't be the good guy and be president. Corruption aside, once getting into position of political power, it is actually harder to maintain it because of different stakeholders involved. Take the military industrial complex, for example. We rightly chastise its profit taking motive by artificially inducing wars. But the sad truth is that they are jobs providers to peripheral places where there are little to no opportunities for many, especially in the desert states in the American Southwest and in isolated regions of Scotland and Northern England in the case of UK. No politicians want to be branded as jobs destroyer. Even without the opportunity for personal corruption, balancing genuine concerns and interests is a hard juggling act for any politicians. And that's not even including campaign financing and its trap of being beholden to the donor. Unfortunately, there is strong correlation between electoral success and how much money is thrown into the campaigning. It is one factor as to why the Citizens United was allowed by the US Supreme Court. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Did Obama actually said that? Absolutely he did. He stood aside when Occupy was brutalized. He did nothing meaningful to help consumers during the foreclosure crisis. He gave the MIC seven wars at once during his presidency. (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, and Libya.) He made sure the big banks got their bailouts. His promise of universal health care morphed into 'access to health care', which of course, only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. Hell, he walked into Flint and pretended to take a drink of water as a political stunt, when he and everyone in that room knew their water was still poisoned with lead. Obama was a massively corrupt president, and one of the biggest disappointments in American history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. The last time i tried to get insurance on the exchange, they said it would be 5 thousand dollars. I said "5000 dollars a year? that seems high" they said "Oh, no sir. 5000 dollars a month" I said "Goodbye" and hung up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago Wtf? I thought 500 a month was robbery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) “And I continued not having health insurance because that’s true compassion in a Christian nation.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yep. Still no health insurance. Everything out of pocket, and because its all out of pocket I only go to the doctor once a year, and ignore any issue that isnt worth an ER visit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Did Obama actually said that? Absolutely he did. He stood aside when Occupy was brutalized. He did nothing meaningful to help consumers during the foreclosure crisis. He gave the MIC seven wars at once during his presidency. (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, and Libya.) He made sure the big banks got their bailouts. His promise of universal health care morphed into 'access to health care', which of course, only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. Hell, he walked into Flint and pretended to take a drink of water as a political stunt, when he and everyone in that room knew their water was still poisoned with lead. Obama was a massively corrupt president, and one of the biggest disappointments in American history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. The last time i tried to get insurance on the exchange, they said it would be 5 thousand dollars. I said "5000 dollars a year? that seems high" they said "Oh, no sir. 5000 dollars a month" I said "Goodbye" and hung up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago Wtf? I thought 500 a month was robbery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) “And I continued not having health insurance because that’s true compassion in a Christian nation.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yep. Still no health insurance. Everything out of pocket, and because its all out of pocket I only go to the doctor once a year, and ignore any issue that isnt worth an ER visit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) only existed if you could absorb being price-gouged for your insurance. The last time i tried to get insurance on the exchange, they said it would be 5 thousand dollars. I said "5000 dollars a year? that seems high" they said "Oh, no sir. 5000 dollars a month" I said "Goodbye" and hung up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago Wtf? I thought 500 a month was robbery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) “And I continued not having health insurance because that’s true compassion in a Christian nation.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yep. Still no health insurance. Everything out of pocket, and because its all out of pocket I only go to the doctor once a year, and ignore any issue that isnt worth an ER visit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago Wtf? I thought 500 a month was robbery. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) “And I continued not having health insurance because that’s true compassion in a Christian nation.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yep. Still no health insurance. Everything out of pocket, and because its all out of pocket I only go to the doctor once a year, and ignore any issue that isnt worth an ER visit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yep. Still no health insurance. Everything out of pocket, and because its all out of pocket I only go to the doctor once a year, and ignore any issue that isnt worth an ER visit permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] obrien_must_suffer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Thank you for your commentary. I hope you have a wonderful Saturday afternoon. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] obrien_must_suffer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago Thank you for your commentary. I hope you have a wonderful Saturday afternoon. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago Time, and a constant light show around him to help any would-be assassins miss. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Nothing inspires apathy like the 40 years of Democrats doing the wrong thing and making it so food and shelter are cost-prohibitive for tens of millions. I'll believe Mamdani is the real deal when he shows me. It's unreasonable to expect Democrats to do the things they say they're going to do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Nothing inspires apathy like the 40 years of Democrats doing the wrong thing and making it so food and shelter are cost-prohibitive for tens of millions. I'll believe Mamdani is the real deal when he shows me. It's unreasonable to expect Democrats to do the things they say they're going to do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago You are worried about that over them cheating him over? Wtf make it make sense permalink fedilink source parent