▲ 506 ▼ American "left" and "liberal" can't decide if they're in the same nutshell. (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago* by TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 235 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 88 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I would just like to state that most Americans have no idea what the difference between a liberal and leftist is. When you say you're a liberal, they think you're a leftist. When you say you're a leftist, they think you're a leftist. The conflation will always be there, given the history of the US and decades of the usage of the conflation in everyday American language. Edit Addendum: it doesn't help that liberals/democratic establishment are somewhat more """"""""""left"""""""""" of the conservatives/Republicans, which is why liberals are grouped with the "left" in the US. It also doesn't help that the "left", who would be more accurately known as that grouping of socialists, communists, anarchists, and every other small or large anti-capitalist and or progressive political identity group, just call themselves "the left" or "leftist", playing into the idea that one's politics can be quickly understood by pointing to the linear spectrum of "right" and "left", as if these broad and false dichotomies fit reality to a tee or some shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) PSL exists belive it or not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Chinese funded militants? Hard fucking pass, China's everything wrong with the USA and then some. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Only party I support at this point. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago Our goal is not to change the system from within. Feel free to engage with DSA candidates and politics, I do too sometimes but I also understand that their influence is limited in scope and I should engage with revolutionary politics as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) .ml user detected, opinion disregarded permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) Blinding yourself to the opinions of those who disagree with you is a great way to learn and grow 👍 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Me, my comrades, and Neville Singham who I am relatively cool with. Class traitors of that varietyare too uncommon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* Why don't you go learn and grow on an infinite AI Slop feed. After all, no information can be detrimental, right? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pandasdontfly@slrpnk.net -5 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Only when it steps on the throats of the bourgeois ❤️ permalink fedilink source parent [–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.cafe 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) You don’t have to have a party for an ideology to exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 year ago an ideology doesn’t need to get elected to office to exist. (Especially ideologies who see the state as illegitimate, say anarchism) permalink fedilink source parent [–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago It's a good thing that that's not what they said, then. permalink fedilink source parent [+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -8 points 1 year ago (1 child) Left is Progressive. DNC create progress everytime we put them in, even without having more than 50 senate seats in over a decade. DNC are your dudes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -12 points 1 year ago (2 children) Bernie lost because millions more people voted for the other candidates in 2016. The fact that he was even allowed to run on the DNC ticket despite his third party status is truly the opposite of fucking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) We already discussed this in another thread. The 2020 race was decided by Obama/DNC forcing multiple candidates to drop out. After Super Tuesday the chances were slim for Bernie to have any chance at winning and there was no point in voters coming out for the remaining primaries. Stop spreading bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Can confirm. Only had the chance to vote for Bernie 5 months after it was "already decided". Our primary system is so fucked. Most of the country does not get to participate and the same 5-10 states choose the candidate every time. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago Doesn't matter. The guy made the same mistake for both elections. permalink fedilink source parent [+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I remember that thread, you owned yourself by linking to an article which disagreed with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 year ago Only it didn't. Have you worked on your reading skills? permalink fedilink source parent [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) If that were true they could be reaping the benefits of supporting the Trump Admin directly, like Walczak and Tim Cook have. The fact of the matter is that the billionaires aren't a united front, either, because some of them are smart enough to realize their fortunes mean jack fucking shit in the face of a dictator who can take whatever he wants. If we had enough DNC to impeach then he would be impeached, if we had enough to remove then he would be removed. We're in this situation to begin with because the GOP have all three chambers and the SCOTUS. None of this shit would be happening otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) And yet somehow none of this happened under the DNC? You make zero sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Somebody needs to tweak these bots they all fall back on variations of this one phrase once they lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) I would just like to state that most Americans have no idea what the difference between a liberal and leftist is. When you say you're a liberal, they think you're a leftist. When you say you're a leftist, they think you're a leftist. The conflation will always be there, given the history of the US and decades of the usage of the conflation in everyday American language. Edit Addendum: it doesn't help that liberals/democratic establishment are somewhat more """"""""""left"""""""""" of the conservatives/Republicans, which is why liberals are grouped with the "left" in the US. It also doesn't help that the "left", who would be more accurately known as that grouping of socialists, communists, anarchists, and every other small or large anti-capitalist and or progressive political identity group, just call themselves "the left" or "leftist", playing into the idea that one's politics can be quickly understood by pointing to the linear spectrum of "right" and "left", as if these broad and false dichotomies fit reality to a tee or some shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) PSL exists belive it or not permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Chinese funded militants? Hard fucking pass, China's everything wrong with the USA and then some. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Only party I support at this point. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago Our goal is not to change the system from within. Feel free to engage with DSA candidates and politics, I do too sometimes but I also understand that their influence is limited in scope and I should engage with revolutionary politics as well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) .ml user detected, opinion disregarded permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) Blinding yourself to the opinions of those who disagree with you is a great way to learn and grow 👍 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Me, my comrades, and Neville Singham who I am relatively cool with. Class traitors of that varietyare too uncommon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* Why don't you go learn and grow on an infinite AI Slop feed. After all, no information can be detrimental, right? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pandasdontfly@slrpnk.net -5 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Only when it steps on the throats of the bourgeois ❤️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Chinese funded militants? Hard fucking pass, China's everything wrong with the USA and then some. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago Only party I support at this point. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago Our goal is not to change the system from within. Feel free to engage with DSA candidates and politics, I do too sometimes but I also understand that their influence is limited in scope and I should engage with revolutionary politics as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago Our goal is not to change the system from within. Feel free to engage with DSA candidates and politics, I do too sometimes but I also understand that their influence is limited in scope and I should engage with revolutionary politics as well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) .ml user detected, opinion disregarded permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) Blinding yourself to the opinions of those who disagree with you is a great way to learn and grow 👍 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Me, my comrades, and Neville Singham who I am relatively cool with. Class traitors of that varietyare too uncommon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* Why don't you go learn and grow on an infinite AI Slop feed. After all, no information can be detrimental, right? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pandasdontfly@slrpnk.net -5 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Only when it steps on the throats of the bourgeois ❤️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) Blinding yourself to the opinions of those who disagree with you is a great way to learn and grow 👍 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Me, my comrades, and Neville Singham who I am relatively cool with. Class traitors of that varietyare too uncommon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* Why don't you go learn and grow on an infinite AI Slop feed. After all, no information can be detrimental, right? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pandasdontfly@slrpnk.net -5 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Only when it steps on the throats of the bourgeois ❤️ permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ileftreddit@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Me, my comrades, and Neville Singham who I am relatively cool with. Class traitors of that varietyare too uncommon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Me, my comrades, and Neville Singham who I am relatively cool with. Class traitors of that varietyare too uncommon permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ileftreddit@piefed.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* Why don't you go learn and grow on an infinite AI Slop feed. After all, no information can be detrimental, right? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Pandasdontfly@slrpnk.net -5 points 1 year ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Only when it steps on the throats of the bourgeois ❤️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago Only when it steps on the throats of the bourgeois ❤️ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.cafe 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) You don’t have to have a party for an ideology to exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 year ago an ideology doesn’t need to get elected to office to exist. (Especially ideologies who see the state as illegitimate, say anarchism) permalink fedilink source parent [–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago It's a good thing that that's not what they said, then. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 year ago an ideology doesn’t need to get elected to office to exist. (Especially ideologies who see the state as illegitimate, say anarchism) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 year ago an ideology doesn’t need to get elected to office to exist. (Especially ideologies who see the state as illegitimate, say anarchism) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago It's a good thing that that's not what they said, then. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -8 points 1 year ago (1 child) Left is Progressive. DNC create progress everytime we put them in, even without having more than 50 senate seats in over a decade. DNC are your dudes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -12 points 1 year ago (2 children) Bernie lost because millions more people voted for the other candidates in 2016. The fact that he was even allowed to run on the DNC ticket despite his third party status is truly the opposite of fucking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) We already discussed this in another thread. The 2020 race was decided by Obama/DNC forcing multiple candidates to drop out. After Super Tuesday the chances were slim for Bernie to have any chance at winning and there was no point in voters coming out for the remaining primaries. Stop spreading bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Can confirm. Only had the chance to vote for Bernie 5 months after it was "already decided". Our primary system is so fucked. Most of the country does not get to participate and the same 5-10 states choose the candidate every time. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago Doesn't matter. The guy made the same mistake for both elections. permalink fedilink source parent [+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I remember that thread, you owned yourself by linking to an article which disagreed with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 year ago Only it didn't. Have you worked on your reading skills? permalink fedilink source parent [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) If that were true they could be reaping the benefits of supporting the Trump Admin directly, like Walczak and Tim Cook have. The fact of the matter is that the billionaires aren't a united front, either, because some of them are smart enough to realize their fortunes mean jack fucking shit in the face of a dictator who can take whatever he wants. If we had enough DNC to impeach then he would be impeached, if we had enough to remove then he would be removed. We're in this situation to begin with because the GOP have all three chambers and the SCOTUS. None of this shit would be happening otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) And yet somehow none of this happened under the DNC? You make zero sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Somebody needs to tweak these bots they all fall back on variations of this one phrase once they lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -12 points 1 year ago (2 children) Bernie lost because millions more people voted for the other candidates in 2016. The fact that he was even allowed to run on the DNC ticket despite his third party status is truly the opposite of fucking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) We already discussed this in another thread. The 2020 race was decided by Obama/DNC forcing multiple candidates to drop out. After Super Tuesday the chances were slim for Bernie to have any chance at winning and there was no point in voters coming out for the remaining primaries. Stop spreading bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Can confirm. Only had the chance to vote for Bernie 5 months after it was "already decided". Our primary system is so fucked. Most of the country does not get to participate and the same 5-10 states choose the candidate every time. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago Doesn't matter. The guy made the same mistake for both elections. permalink fedilink source parent [+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I remember that thread, you owned yourself by linking to an article which disagreed with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 year ago Only it didn't. Have you worked on your reading skills? permalink fedilink source parent [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) If that were true they could be reaping the benefits of supporting the Trump Admin directly, like Walczak and Tim Cook have. The fact of the matter is that the billionaires aren't a united front, either, because some of them are smart enough to realize their fortunes mean jack fucking shit in the face of a dictator who can take whatever he wants. If we had enough DNC to impeach then he would be impeached, if we had enough to remove then he would be removed. We're in this situation to begin with because the GOP have all three chambers and the SCOTUS. None of this shit would be happening otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) And yet somehow none of this happened under the DNC? You make zero sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Somebody needs to tweak these bots they all fall back on variations of this one phrase once they lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -12 points 1 year ago (2 children) Bernie lost because millions more people voted for the other candidates in 2016. The fact that he was even allowed to run on the DNC ticket despite his third party status is truly the opposite of fucking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) We already discussed this in another thread. The 2020 race was decided by Obama/DNC forcing multiple candidates to drop out. After Super Tuesday the chances were slim for Bernie to have any chance at winning and there was no point in voters coming out for the remaining primaries. Stop spreading bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Can confirm. Only had the chance to vote for Bernie 5 months after it was "already decided". Our primary system is so fucked. Most of the country does not get to participate and the same 5-10 states choose the candidate every time. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago Doesn't matter. The guy made the same mistake for both elections. permalink fedilink source parent [+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I remember that thread, you owned yourself by linking to an article which disagreed with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 year ago Only it didn't. Have you worked on your reading skills? permalink fedilink source parent [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) If that were true they could be reaping the benefits of supporting the Trump Admin directly, like Walczak and Tim Cook have. The fact of the matter is that the billionaires aren't a united front, either, because some of them are smart enough to realize their fortunes mean jack fucking shit in the face of a dictator who can take whatever he wants. If we had enough DNC to impeach then he would be impeached, if we had enough to remove then he would be removed. We're in this situation to begin with because the GOP have all three chambers and the SCOTUS. None of this shit would be happening otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) And yet somehow none of this happened under the DNC? You make zero sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Somebody needs to tweak these bots they all fall back on variations of this one phrase once they lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) We already discussed this in another thread. The 2020 race was decided by Obama/DNC forcing multiple candidates to drop out. After Super Tuesday the chances were slim for Bernie to have any chance at winning and there was no point in voters coming out for the remaining primaries. Stop spreading bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Can confirm. Only had the chance to vote for Bernie 5 months after it was "already decided". Our primary system is so fucked. Most of the country does not get to participate and the same 5-10 states choose the candidate every time. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago Doesn't matter. The guy made the same mistake for both elections. permalink fedilink source parent [+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I remember that thread, you owned yourself by linking to an article which disagreed with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 year ago Only it didn't. Have you worked on your reading skills? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 point 10 months ago Can confirm. Only had the chance to vote for Bernie 5 months after it was "already decided". Our primary system is so fucked. Most of the country does not get to participate and the same 5-10 states choose the candidate every time. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago Doesn't matter. The guy made the same mistake for both elections. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 year ago Doesn't matter. The guy made the same mistake for both elections. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I remember that thread, you owned yourself by linking to an article which disagreed with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 year ago Only it didn't. Have you worked on your reading skills? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 year ago Only it didn't. Have you worked on your reading skills? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) If that were true they could be reaping the benefits of supporting the Trump Admin directly, like Walczak and Tim Cook have. The fact of the matter is that the billionaires aren't a united front, either, because some of them are smart enough to realize their fortunes mean jack fucking shit in the face of a dictator who can take whatever he wants. If we had enough DNC to impeach then he would be impeached, if we had enough to remove then he would be removed. We're in this situation to begin with because the GOP have all three chambers and the SCOTUS. None of this shit would be happening otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) And yet somehow none of this happened under the DNC? You make zero sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Somebody needs to tweak these bots they all fall back on variations of this one phrase once they lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) If that were true they could be reaping the benefits of supporting the Trump Admin directly, like Walczak and Tim Cook have. The fact of the matter is that the billionaires aren't a united front, either, because some of them are smart enough to realize their fortunes mean jack fucking shit in the face of a dictator who can take whatever he wants. If we had enough DNC to impeach then he would be impeached, if we had enough to remove then he would be removed. We're in this situation to begin with because the GOP have all three chambers and the SCOTUS. None of this shit would be happening otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) And yet somehow none of this happened under the DNC? You make zero sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Somebody needs to tweak these bots they all fall back on variations of this one phrase once they lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) And yet somehow none of this happened under the DNC? You make zero sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Somebody needs to tweak these bots they all fall back on variations of this one phrase once they lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) And yet somehow none of this happened under the DNC? You make zero sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Somebody needs to tweak these bots they all fall back on variations of this one phrase once they lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Somebody needs to tweak these bots they all fall back on variations of this one phrase once they lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Somebody needs to tweak these bots they all fall back on variations of this one phrase once they lose the argument. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent