▲ 436 ▼ YSK: Upvotes and downvotes are public information on Lemmy (lemmy.today) submitted 1 year ago* by npdean@lemmy.today to c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world 369 comments fedilink hide all child comments I recently learned that voting on lemmy is not anonymous. Anyone can get information about who has upvoted and downvoted a post or comment. In combination with your IP, this is a massive privacy (maybe even physical security) risk. Also, people can target you for your votes. Sadly, this is something where I would prefer Reddit over Lemmy. Big tech scrapes data from both places anyways, at least Reddit is safe.
[–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children) It is nowhere explicitly made clear to users that voting is public. It should be made clear if it is going to be permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] gazby@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's the other way around here: Everything is public except where it's made clear that it won't be (e.g. email address, password). For what it's worth, your instance of choice is particularly negligent in regard to informing its users. Compare lemmy.today/legal to lemmy.world/legal, or their respective signup pages for examples. There's little that Lemmy itself or the community at large can do about that 😞 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It needs to be fixed. Every user is having a different user experience during account creation but everyone's information is being federated equally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gazby@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) They don't seem very active, but you can try reaching your instance admin at https://lemmy.today/u/mrmanager permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 1 point 1 year ago It is not the problem of my instance per se. It is a problem for all instances because everyone has to agree to instance terms but they kind of are agreeing to all instances' terms. permalink fedilink source parent [+] dirtydocmark@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zeca@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago I think its a fair assumption that most people make that whatever data which isnt explicitly displayed to a regular user is not public. Having likes be public but hidden is misleading. permalink fedilink source parent [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) It is made clear because there is an option to see all the votes right next to the like button. Similarly, many sites allow you to go through activity of people you follow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dirtydocmark@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I can see the number of votes but not who voted. This gives the impression that this information is not available publicly. However, it can be accessed by anyone on third party websites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dirtydocmark@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) An EU resident could sue for emotional damages under the GDPR. Or maybe just complain to data protection authorities. One day it will happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 2 points 1 year ago I hope it does. Lemmy should not get benefit of the doubt just because it is open source permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gazby@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago (1 child) It's the other way around here: Everything is public except where it's made clear that it won't be (e.g. email address, password). For what it's worth, your instance of choice is particularly negligent in regard to informing its users. Compare lemmy.today/legal to lemmy.world/legal, or their respective signup pages for examples. There's little that Lemmy itself or the community at large can do about that 😞 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It needs to be fixed. Every user is having a different user experience during account creation but everyone's information is being federated equally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gazby@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) They don't seem very active, but you can try reaching your instance admin at https://lemmy.today/u/mrmanager permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 1 point 1 year ago It is not the problem of my instance per se. It is a problem for all instances because everyone has to agree to instance terms but they kind of are agreeing to all instances' terms. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It needs to be fixed. Every user is having a different user experience during account creation but everyone's information is being federated equally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gazby@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) They don't seem very active, but you can try reaching your instance admin at https://lemmy.today/u/mrmanager permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 1 point 1 year ago It is not the problem of my instance per se. It is a problem for all instances because everyone has to agree to instance terms but they kind of are agreeing to all instances' terms. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gazby@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) They don't seem very active, but you can try reaching your instance admin at https://lemmy.today/u/mrmanager permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 1 point 1 year ago It is not the problem of my instance per se. It is a problem for all instances because everyone has to agree to instance terms but they kind of are agreeing to all instances' terms. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 1 point 1 year ago It is not the problem of my instance per se. It is a problem for all instances because everyone has to agree to instance terms but they kind of are agreeing to all instances' terms. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dirtydocmark@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zeca@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago I think its a fair assumption that most people make that whatever data which isnt explicitly displayed to a regular user is not public. Having likes be public but hidden is misleading. permalink fedilink source parent [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) It is made clear because there is an option to see all the votes right next to the like button. Similarly, many sites allow you to go through activity of people you follow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dirtydocmark@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I can see the number of votes but not who voted. This gives the impression that this information is not available publicly. However, it can be accessed by anyone on third party websites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dirtydocmark@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zeca@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago I think its a fair assumption that most people make that whatever data which isnt explicitly displayed to a regular user is not public. Having likes be public but hidden is misleading. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) It is made clear because there is an option to see all the votes right next to the like button. Similarly, many sites allow you to go through activity of people you follow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dirtydocmark@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I can see the number of votes but not who voted. This gives the impression that this information is not available publicly. However, it can be accessed by anyone on third party websites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dirtydocmark@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dirtydocmark@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I can see the number of votes but not who voted. This gives the impression that this information is not available publicly. However, it can be accessed by anyone on third party websites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dirtydocmark@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I can see the number of votes but not who voted. This gives the impression that this information is not available publicly. However, it can be accessed by anyone on third party websites. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dirtydocmark@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dirtydocmark@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) An EU resident could sue for emotional damages under the GDPR. Or maybe just complain to data protection authorities. One day it will happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 2 points 1 year ago I hope it does. Lemmy should not get benefit of the doubt just because it is open source permalink fedilink source parent
[–] npdean@lemmy.today [S] 2 points 1 year ago I hope it does. Lemmy should not get benefit of the doubt just because it is open source permalink fedilink source parent