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The new Nexus Mods app adds collections creation, library searching and more improvements (www.gamingonlinux.com)
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[–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Limo is designed soley to work on linux.

NM is multi-platform, ie, linux is an afterthought, after Windows.

Also Limo currently 'actually' has more functionality with a much more broad variety of games on linux than NM does... in that it works for literally any game.

Both 'apps' have been in development for about the same amount of time, and Limo has delivered far more linux functionality, with far less jank and bugs, in the same timeframe, thus indicating Limo is much more serious about linux support than NM.

Just go look at the issues section of the github for each and you can see that for NM, there are tons of major problems with both the released AppImage and people trying to build from source on linux.

The Nexus folks either are not prioritizing linux, or are not very good at developing for linux, or both.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What makes a multi-platform app default to treating Linux as an afterthought? If that's the case, it's true for most KDE apps as well; most notably in my mind would be Krita.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    The part where it has way, way more bugs and problems on linux than it does on windows.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    NM is multi-platform, ie, linux is an afterthought, after Windows.

    That's what you said, right? That multi-platform apps put Linux last. Seems pretty clear you don't know what you're talking about.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Multi platform apps often do a shoddy job of fully and/or properly supporting linux, this is very common.

    So common that WINE and Proton exist, to just reroute around that problem without forcing every software dev to also become a linux software dev.

    The NM is yet another example of that, its honestly not even really remarkable, its to be expected from devs that are entirely used to developing on windows.

    Do some linux devs also do a bad job of properly supporting a full array of DEs? X11 vs Wayland?

    Yep, that's pretty common as well, this is why many serious distros at least attempt to pick sets of prebundled software, that work best with the DEs and WMs they support fully support, or even develop their own apps, or contribute to apps they like, such that the overall user experience on their distro is less janky and more congruent.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So, therefore, you believe apps like Krita are doing a shoddy job of supporting Linux, right?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    No?

    Krita picks a DE lane, stays with it, and it works well?

    I run Krita on a Gnome DE fairly often... works fine?

    I've never noticed a serious problem.

    Its got detailed build documentation if you want to build it, its got an appimage that actually works, a flatpak that works fine.

    You are the one that brought up DE support as an analogy to... the actual core functions of an app working or not working properly.

    Krita has no problems on either of those fronts... its entirely possible to get an app from basically one DE working in another in a fairly straightforward to the user way, if you know how to actually properly set up an app image or flatpak... which the Krita team does.

    Like uh, if you picked an older, buggier app designed for KDE, that hasn't been updated in a decade, and barfs all over modern KDE or Gnome or w/e then yeah, yeah I'd say that app is no longer well supported on linux, in general, as most linux users generally use at least a fairly recent version of either Gnome or KDE.

    You're just fully committing to your red herring / non sequitur argument here, not really sure why.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Afterthought? This iterates on the vortex app which has no Linux support. I think you're setting the bar unrealistically high for Linux support. Sure it's going to have more issues, because the scope is bigger, not because they're ignoring Linux voices.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    No, the bar is 'basic functions work reliably', that's not too high.

    I'm not saying they're 'ignoring linux voices', I'm saying that they are unskilled at being linux devs, and thus what they deliver is less, actual linux functionality comes off as an afterthought.

    In fairness, they do seem to be learning as they go, but they do have a ways to go.

    Its really, really obvious that the people involved in the dev team have basically all their modding / mod tool development history in Windows, never bothered with linux support before, let someone else figure that out for them.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It would be cool if it was open source so more experienced Devs could participate..

    Oh wait, it is GPL-3.0

    I'm all for supporting native Linux development, but do we really have to have perfect be the enemy of good and call apps that release on multiple platforms not proper native and lesser? Is Firefox not proper native? Is steam not proper native?

    Fact is nexus is doing one good thing and making their next app FOSS and cross platform, and for some reason that's still not good enough because we're so used to supporting underdogs - the tiny GitHub teams releasing groundbreaking stuff made from scraps. Can't we just support a company when it does do the right thing?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    This entire conversation stems from me pointing out there already is a linux native alternative that functions much better.

    I am not making the perfect the enemy of the good.

    That really only makes sense as a framing of an issue where there is ... one big, semi-permanent choice or policy or something that will affect a whole lot of people.

    This isn't that, this is picking between two free alternatives.

    It isn't that its not good enough because Nexus is not an underdog.

    Its that its not good enough because its not good enough.

    I look forward to the Nexus Manager getting better over time, I hope that it does!

    But at the current moment, it isn't so great as a native linux app.

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