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[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) high smoke point oil, not olive oil Olive oil has about the same smoke point as many standard cooking oils. It's a common misconception that it's not suitable for frying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Only if it’s refined to remove all the suspended solids. When most people think about olive oil they think of EVOO which has a low smoke point and turns very bitter if overheated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Again, this isn't true. Extra virgin olive oil of decent quality has a smoke point similar to canola oil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Do you have a citation for that claim? It’s pretty well common knowledge that EVOO is a lower smoke point than typical refined cooking oils. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Google it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I did and all the links back me up and contradict you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) There's this list for example There's also this article There's also the fact that in mediterranian cuisine it has been used that way for centuries with no complaints about the taste. And then there's just my personal experience of not a single dish I've prepared tasting bitter due to using extra virgin olive oil for frying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Those are cherry-picked high numbers for EVOO and low numbers for canola oil. I have seen 450F/230C as a more common high end figure. I cook with sunflower oil which ranges 440F-480F and ghee which smokes at 482F. I would also like to note that the original discussion was about caring for and seasoning cast iron pans which occurs at temperatures close to the smoke point of the oil, not about frying or sautéing. Cast iron pans are often seasoned in the oven and even used for roasting or baking at oven temperatures exceeding 500F. I would never put EVOO into an oven like that unless it was protected (such as included in a pizza crust) but even then I would prefer to drizzle the olive oil over the pizza after baking rather than before, due to the volatility of all the aromatics. I have cooked plenty of times with EVOO but I would never use it for stir frying! permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) The chart at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_point would disagree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) No, at least read it properly before commenting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* 207 as opposed to 230-250 for the oils people typically recommend (rice bran, peanut, refined sunflower, ghee...) and 270 for avocado. Sounds lower to me. Edit: oh you were talking specifically about canola. Well, since they put mustard oil (basically the same thing) at 240 later, I'm not sure about that number, but yeah maybe specifically canola is also not great. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Only if it’s refined to remove all the suspended solids. When most people think about olive oil they think of EVOO which has a low smoke point and turns very bitter if overheated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Again, this isn't true. Extra virgin olive oil of decent quality has a smoke point similar to canola oil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Do you have a citation for that claim? It’s pretty well common knowledge that EVOO is a lower smoke point than typical refined cooking oils. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Google it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I did and all the links back me up and contradict you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) There's this list for example There's also this article There's also the fact that in mediterranian cuisine it has been used that way for centuries with no complaints about the taste. And then there's just my personal experience of not a single dish I've prepared tasting bitter due to using extra virgin olive oil for frying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Those are cherry-picked high numbers for EVOO and low numbers for canola oil. I have seen 450F/230C as a more common high end figure. I cook with sunflower oil which ranges 440F-480F and ghee which smokes at 482F. I would also like to note that the original discussion was about caring for and seasoning cast iron pans which occurs at temperatures close to the smoke point of the oil, not about frying or sautéing. Cast iron pans are often seasoned in the oven and even used for roasting or baking at oven temperatures exceeding 500F. I would never put EVOO into an oven like that unless it was protected (such as included in a pizza crust) but even then I would prefer to drizzle the olive oil over the pizza after baking rather than before, due to the volatility of all the aromatics. I have cooked plenty of times with EVOO but I would never use it for stir frying! permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) The chart at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_point would disagree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) No, at least read it properly before commenting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* 207 as opposed to 230-250 for the oils people typically recommend (rice bran, peanut, refined sunflower, ghee...) and 270 for avocado. Sounds lower to me. Edit: oh you were talking specifically about canola. Well, since they put mustard oil (basically the same thing) at 240 later, I'm not sure about that number, but yeah maybe specifically canola is also not great. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) Again, this isn't true. Extra virgin olive oil of decent quality has a smoke point similar to canola oil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Do you have a citation for that claim? It’s pretty well common knowledge that EVOO is a lower smoke point than typical refined cooking oils. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Google it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I did and all the links back me up and contradict you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) There's this list for example There's also this article There's also the fact that in mediterranian cuisine it has been used that way for centuries with no complaints about the taste. And then there's just my personal experience of not a single dish I've prepared tasting bitter due to using extra virgin olive oil for frying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Those are cherry-picked high numbers for EVOO and low numbers for canola oil. I have seen 450F/230C as a more common high end figure. I cook with sunflower oil which ranges 440F-480F and ghee which smokes at 482F. I would also like to note that the original discussion was about caring for and seasoning cast iron pans which occurs at temperatures close to the smoke point of the oil, not about frying or sautéing. Cast iron pans are often seasoned in the oven and even used for roasting or baking at oven temperatures exceeding 500F. I would never put EVOO into an oven like that unless it was protected (such as included in a pizza crust) but even then I would prefer to drizzle the olive oil over the pizza after baking rather than before, due to the volatility of all the aromatics. I have cooked plenty of times with EVOO but I would never use it for stir frying! permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) The chart at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_point would disagree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) No, at least read it properly before commenting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* 207 as opposed to 230-250 for the oils people typically recommend (rice bran, peanut, refined sunflower, ghee...) and 270 for avocado. Sounds lower to me. Edit: oh you were talking specifically about canola. Well, since they put mustard oil (basically the same thing) at 240 later, I'm not sure about that number, but yeah maybe specifically canola is also not great. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Do you have a citation for that claim? It’s pretty well common knowledge that EVOO is a lower smoke point than typical refined cooking oils. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Google it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I did and all the links back me up and contradict you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) There's this list for example There's also this article There's also the fact that in mediterranian cuisine it has been used that way for centuries with no complaints about the taste. And then there's just my personal experience of not a single dish I've prepared tasting bitter due to using extra virgin olive oil for frying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Those are cherry-picked high numbers for EVOO and low numbers for canola oil. I have seen 450F/230C as a more common high end figure. I cook with sunflower oil which ranges 440F-480F and ghee which smokes at 482F. I would also like to note that the original discussion was about caring for and seasoning cast iron pans which occurs at temperatures close to the smoke point of the oil, not about frying or sautéing. Cast iron pans are often seasoned in the oven and even used for roasting or baking at oven temperatures exceeding 500F. I would never put EVOO into an oven like that unless it was protected (such as included in a pizza crust) but even then I would prefer to drizzle the olive oil over the pizza after baking rather than before, due to the volatility of all the aromatics. I have cooked plenty of times with EVOO but I would never use it for stir frying! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) Google it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I did and all the links back me up and contradict you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) There's this list for example There's also this article There's also the fact that in mediterranian cuisine it has been used that way for centuries with no complaints about the taste. And then there's just my personal experience of not a single dish I've prepared tasting bitter due to using extra virgin olive oil for frying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Those are cherry-picked high numbers for EVOO and low numbers for canola oil. I have seen 450F/230C as a more common high end figure. I cook with sunflower oil which ranges 440F-480F and ghee which smokes at 482F. I would also like to note that the original discussion was about caring for and seasoning cast iron pans which occurs at temperatures close to the smoke point of the oil, not about frying or sautéing. Cast iron pans are often seasoned in the oven and even used for roasting or baking at oven temperatures exceeding 500F. I would never put EVOO into an oven like that unless it was protected (such as included in a pizza crust) but even then I would prefer to drizzle the olive oil over the pizza after baking rather than before, due to the volatility of all the aromatics. I have cooked plenty of times with EVOO but I would never use it for stir frying! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I did and all the links back me up and contradict you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) There's this list for example There's also this article There's also the fact that in mediterranian cuisine it has been used that way for centuries with no complaints about the taste. And then there's just my personal experience of not a single dish I've prepared tasting bitter due to using extra virgin olive oil for frying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Those are cherry-picked high numbers for EVOO and low numbers for canola oil. I have seen 450F/230C as a more common high end figure. I cook with sunflower oil which ranges 440F-480F and ghee which smokes at 482F. I would also like to note that the original discussion was about caring for and seasoning cast iron pans which occurs at temperatures close to the smoke point of the oil, not about frying or sautéing. Cast iron pans are often seasoned in the oven and even used for roasting or baking at oven temperatures exceeding 500F. I would never put EVOO into an oven like that unless it was protected (such as included in a pizza crust) but even then I would prefer to drizzle the olive oil over the pizza after baking rather than before, due to the volatility of all the aromatics. I have cooked plenty of times with EVOO but I would never use it for stir frying! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) There's this list for example There's also this article There's also the fact that in mediterranian cuisine it has been used that way for centuries with no complaints about the taste. And then there's just my personal experience of not a single dish I've prepared tasting bitter due to using extra virgin olive oil for frying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Those are cherry-picked high numbers for EVOO and low numbers for canola oil. I have seen 450F/230C as a more common high end figure. I cook with sunflower oil which ranges 440F-480F and ghee which smokes at 482F. I would also like to note that the original discussion was about caring for and seasoning cast iron pans which occurs at temperatures close to the smoke point of the oil, not about frying or sautéing. Cast iron pans are often seasoned in the oven and even used for roasting or baking at oven temperatures exceeding 500F. I would never put EVOO into an oven like that unless it was protected (such as included in a pizza crust) but even then I would prefer to drizzle the olive oil over the pizza after baking rather than before, due to the volatility of all the aromatics. I have cooked plenty of times with EVOO but I would never use it for stir frying! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Those are cherry-picked high numbers for EVOO and low numbers for canola oil. I have seen 450F/230C as a more common high end figure. I cook with sunflower oil which ranges 440F-480F and ghee which smokes at 482F. I would also like to note that the original discussion was about caring for and seasoning cast iron pans which occurs at temperatures close to the smoke point of the oil, not about frying or sautéing. Cast iron pans are often seasoned in the oven and even used for roasting or baking at oven temperatures exceeding 500F. I would never put EVOO into an oven like that unless it was protected (such as included in a pizza crust) but even then I would prefer to drizzle the olive oil over the pizza after baking rather than before, due to the volatility of all the aromatics. I have cooked plenty of times with EVOO but I would never use it for stir frying! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) The chart at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_point would disagree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) No, at least read it properly before commenting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* 207 as opposed to 230-250 for the oils people typically recommend (rice bran, peanut, refined sunflower, ghee...) and 270 for avocado. Sounds lower to me. Edit: oh you were talking specifically about canola. Well, since they put mustard oil (basically the same thing) at 240 later, I'm not sure about that number, but yeah maybe specifically canola is also not great. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) No, at least read it properly before commenting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* 207 as opposed to 230-250 for the oils people typically recommend (rice bran, peanut, refined sunflower, ghee...) and 270 for avocado. Sounds lower to me. Edit: oh you were talking specifically about canola. Well, since they put mustard oil (basically the same thing) at 240 later, I'm not sure about that number, but yeah maybe specifically canola is also not great. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* 207 as opposed to 230-250 for the oils people typically recommend (rice bran, peanut, refined sunflower, ghee...) and 270 for avocado. Sounds lower to me. Edit: oh you were talking specifically about canola. Well, since they put mustard oil (basically the same thing) at 240 later, I'm not sure about that number, but yeah maybe specifically canola is also not great. permalink fedilink source parent