▲ 209 ▼ American vehicles are huge. Now Trump is pressuring Europe and Asia to allow the U.S. to export cars that don't meet local safety standards (angieschmitt.substack.com) submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world 39 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (3 children) AI made that graph. so the graph is wrong. can you make an accurate graph and repost? permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago Who the fuck generates graphs with AI? Genuine slopper behavior. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Womble@piefed.world 6 points 1 year ago "AI helped me make this graph" Could just mean they got AI to write some matplotlib to plot real data. Though it is pretty slapdash to just state that with no further explaination. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) What make you think the graph is wrong ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Probably knowing that the nature of LLMs is to generate output based on statistical associations, and that they don’t have the ability to look at data and understand it. It’s also so fucking lazy to do that and then turn around and beg for people to pay you for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) LLMs generate theses kind of graph by writing a python program that plot a real dataset. I don't see the issue you have. nature of LLMs is to generate output based on statistical associations that's also the nature of humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) LLMs generate theses kind of graph by writing a python program that plot a real dataset. Assuming it even correctly does that. And why is that even necessary? People were able to make graphs before AI. It isn’t hard to do, and the piddling amount of data on display hardly needs a custom python program to plot it. that's also the nature of humans. Thoughts are more than statistical associations, and anyone telling you that you can make a humanlike consciousness through a glorified autocorrect is a scam artist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) People were able to make graphs before AI. The times, and skill level required to make this graph dropped significantly. Before, you may not even had this graph. Thoughts are more than statistical associations Do you even know -how- you think ? Anyone telling you they know how thought process works in the brain is a scam artist, you can't make any comparison between how work the two because we don't know how both operate to produce the output. PS: a humanlike consciousness Does consciousness exists at all ? I can argue it's an illusion born from the ability of self reflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Does conscipusness exist at all? Yes. The entire physical world may be an illusion for all I know, but the only thing I can be truly certain of is my conscious experience of it. There is simply no way for me to doubt my own consciousness as such, but I can doubt what I am conscious of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So you are saying, since you see the illusion, it must be real ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm saying that no matter what I see, illusory or not, I cannot doubt that I am seeing it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago Who the fuck generates graphs with AI? Genuine slopper behavior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Womble@piefed.world 6 points 1 year ago "AI helped me make this graph" Could just mean they got AI to write some matplotlib to plot real data. Though it is pretty slapdash to just state that with no further explaination. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) What make you think the graph is wrong ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Probably knowing that the nature of LLMs is to generate output based on statistical associations, and that they don’t have the ability to look at data and understand it. It’s also so fucking lazy to do that and then turn around and beg for people to pay you for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) LLMs generate theses kind of graph by writing a python program that plot a real dataset. I don't see the issue you have. nature of LLMs is to generate output based on statistical associations that's also the nature of humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) LLMs generate theses kind of graph by writing a python program that plot a real dataset. Assuming it even correctly does that. And why is that even necessary? People were able to make graphs before AI. It isn’t hard to do, and the piddling amount of data on display hardly needs a custom python program to plot it. that's also the nature of humans. Thoughts are more than statistical associations, and anyone telling you that you can make a humanlike consciousness through a glorified autocorrect is a scam artist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) People were able to make graphs before AI. The times, and skill level required to make this graph dropped significantly. Before, you may not even had this graph. Thoughts are more than statistical associations Do you even know -how- you think ? Anyone telling you they know how thought process works in the brain is a scam artist, you can't make any comparison between how work the two because we don't know how both operate to produce the output. PS: a humanlike consciousness Does consciousness exists at all ? I can argue it's an illusion born from the ability of self reflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Does conscipusness exist at all? Yes. The entire physical world may be an illusion for all I know, but the only thing I can be truly certain of is my conscious experience of it. There is simply no way for me to doubt my own consciousness as such, but I can doubt what I am conscious of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So you are saying, since you see the illusion, it must be real ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm saying that no matter what I see, illusory or not, I cannot doubt that I am seeing it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Probably knowing that the nature of LLMs is to generate output based on statistical associations, and that they don’t have the ability to look at data and understand it. It’s also so fucking lazy to do that and then turn around and beg for people to pay you for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) LLMs generate theses kind of graph by writing a python program that plot a real dataset. I don't see the issue you have. nature of LLMs is to generate output based on statistical associations that's also the nature of humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) LLMs generate theses kind of graph by writing a python program that plot a real dataset. Assuming it even correctly does that. And why is that even necessary? People were able to make graphs before AI. It isn’t hard to do, and the piddling amount of data on display hardly needs a custom python program to plot it. that's also the nature of humans. Thoughts are more than statistical associations, and anyone telling you that you can make a humanlike consciousness through a glorified autocorrect is a scam artist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) People were able to make graphs before AI. The times, and skill level required to make this graph dropped significantly. Before, you may not even had this graph. Thoughts are more than statistical associations Do you even know -how- you think ? Anyone telling you they know how thought process works in the brain is a scam artist, you can't make any comparison between how work the two because we don't know how both operate to produce the output. PS: a humanlike consciousness Does consciousness exists at all ? I can argue it's an illusion born from the ability of self reflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Does conscipusness exist at all? Yes. The entire physical world may be an illusion for all I know, but the only thing I can be truly certain of is my conscious experience of it. There is simply no way for me to doubt my own consciousness as such, but I can doubt what I am conscious of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So you are saying, since you see the illusion, it must be real ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm saying that no matter what I see, illusory or not, I cannot doubt that I am seeing it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) LLMs generate theses kind of graph by writing a python program that plot a real dataset. I don't see the issue you have. nature of LLMs is to generate output based on statistical associations that's also the nature of humans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) LLMs generate theses kind of graph by writing a python program that plot a real dataset. Assuming it even correctly does that. And why is that even necessary? People were able to make graphs before AI. It isn’t hard to do, and the piddling amount of data on display hardly needs a custom python program to plot it. that's also the nature of humans. Thoughts are more than statistical associations, and anyone telling you that you can make a humanlike consciousness through a glorified autocorrect is a scam artist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) People were able to make graphs before AI. The times, and skill level required to make this graph dropped significantly. Before, you may not even had this graph. Thoughts are more than statistical associations Do you even know -how- you think ? Anyone telling you they know how thought process works in the brain is a scam artist, you can't make any comparison between how work the two because we don't know how both operate to produce the output. PS: a humanlike consciousness Does consciousness exists at all ? I can argue it's an illusion born from the ability of self reflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Does conscipusness exist at all? Yes. The entire physical world may be an illusion for all I know, but the only thing I can be truly certain of is my conscious experience of it. There is simply no way for me to doubt my own consciousness as such, but I can doubt what I am conscious of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So you are saying, since you see the illusion, it must be real ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm saying that no matter what I see, illusory or not, I cannot doubt that I am seeing it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) LLMs generate theses kind of graph by writing a python program that plot a real dataset. Assuming it even correctly does that. And why is that even necessary? People were able to make graphs before AI. It isn’t hard to do, and the piddling amount of data on display hardly needs a custom python program to plot it. that's also the nature of humans. Thoughts are more than statistical associations, and anyone telling you that you can make a humanlike consciousness through a glorified autocorrect is a scam artist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) People were able to make graphs before AI. The times, and skill level required to make this graph dropped significantly. Before, you may not even had this graph. Thoughts are more than statistical associations Do you even know -how- you think ? Anyone telling you they know how thought process works in the brain is a scam artist, you can't make any comparison between how work the two because we don't know how both operate to produce the output. PS: a humanlike consciousness Does consciousness exists at all ? I can argue it's an illusion born from the ability of self reflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Does conscipusness exist at all? Yes. The entire physical world may be an illusion for all I know, but the only thing I can be truly certain of is my conscious experience of it. There is simply no way for me to doubt my own consciousness as such, but I can doubt what I am conscious of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So you are saying, since you see the illusion, it must be real ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm saying that no matter what I see, illusory or not, I cannot doubt that I am seeing it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) People were able to make graphs before AI. The times, and skill level required to make this graph dropped significantly. Before, you may not even had this graph. Thoughts are more than statistical associations Do you even know -how- you think ? Anyone telling you they know how thought process works in the brain is a scam artist, you can't make any comparison between how work the two because we don't know how both operate to produce the output. PS: a humanlike consciousness Does consciousness exists at all ? I can argue it's an illusion born from the ability of self reflection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Does conscipusness exist at all? Yes. The entire physical world may be an illusion for all I know, but the only thing I can be truly certain of is my conscious experience of it. There is simply no way for me to doubt my own consciousness as such, but I can doubt what I am conscious of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So you are saying, since you see the illusion, it must be real ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm saying that no matter what I see, illusory or not, I cannot doubt that I am seeing it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jonion@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Does conscipusness exist at all? Yes. The entire physical world may be an illusion for all I know, but the only thing I can be truly certain of is my conscious experience of it. There is simply no way for me to doubt my own consciousness as such, but I can doubt what I am conscious of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So you are saying, since you see the illusion, it must be real ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm saying that no matter what I see, illusory or not, I cannot doubt that I am seeing it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So you are saying, since you see the illusion, it must be real ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jonion@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm saying that no matter what I see, illusory or not, I cannot doubt that I am seeing it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jonion@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago I'm saying that no matter what I see, illusory or not, I cannot doubt that I am seeing it. permalink fedilink source parent