▲ 156 ▼ Samsung’s One UI 8 might shut down bootloader unlocking on Galaxy phones (www.theverge.com) submitted 1 year ago by kebab@endlesstalk.org to c/technology@lemmy.world 39 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (2 children) Doesn't this break laws in the EU, JP, and US? permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago As long as they grease the right palms in the US it’s fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social 24 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's definitely no law in the US. In fact the vast majority of Android device bootloaders come locked. Pretty much just Pixels and Galaxies that allow this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Yeah they might come locked, but the owner needs to be able to remove that lock if they want to. I can't remember owning an Android device it wasn't possible on. What do you mean just pixel and galaxy allow it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] LostXOR@fedia.io 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I think computers are gonna be next on the chopping block. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago It is moving that way for sure. But PC gamer is kicking still... Despite these gpu prices permalink fedilink source parent [–] neblem@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) And even when it comes to Galaxies, you can't buy from a carrier in the US or you'll often get a special version that, you guessed right, has a locked bootloader. (Two phones now, never again). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I bought unlocked (no carrier) phones from samsung's website and got locked bootloaders. I'm in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) that probably only means that its carrier unlocked, so that you are not forced to use a specific carrier that someone decided for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Exactly, which makes the "you can’t buy from a carrier in the US or you’ll often get a special version that" invalid, since its locked bootloader whether or not you get it from a carrier permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Even the non-carrier variants in the US, misleadingly called "International variants" despite of being regional to the US, have locked bootloader. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neblem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yuck, TIL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yuck indeed. People tried many ways to get around it, back when I was still using an US variant Samsung Note 9, people went as far as using a leaked engineering/preproduction ROM, which can be flashed using Samsung's official tool because it does have the correct key for the locked bootloader to accept, being built and compiled by Samsung, and because it's an engineering ROM it would give you root and everything despite of the bootloader still being locked. But it was an exceptionally rare leak, and it was only meant for preproduction for a reason, it is very VERY unstable and not exactly usable for a daily driver lol So happy I am leaving all that BS from Samsung behind with my current Sony Xperia 1 VI which is bootloader-unlocked and rooted and deeply modded and truly my own device lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlocking_Consumer_Choice_and_Wireless_Competition_Act permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago* That's Carrier Unlocking, not Bootloader Unlocking. permalink fedilink source parent [+] artyom@piefed.social -7 points 1 year ago Did you have a question? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago As long as they grease the right palms in the US it’s fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 24 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's definitely no law in the US. In fact the vast majority of Android device bootloaders come locked. Pretty much just Pixels and Galaxies that allow this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Yeah they might come locked, but the owner needs to be able to remove that lock if they want to. I can't remember owning an Android device it wasn't possible on. What do you mean just pixel and galaxy allow it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] LostXOR@fedia.io 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I think computers are gonna be next on the chopping block. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago It is moving that way for sure. But PC gamer is kicking still... Despite these gpu prices permalink fedilink source parent [–] neblem@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) And even when it comes to Galaxies, you can't buy from a carrier in the US or you'll often get a special version that, you guessed right, has a locked bootloader. (Two phones now, never again). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I bought unlocked (no carrier) phones from samsung's website and got locked bootloaders. I'm in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) that probably only means that its carrier unlocked, so that you are not forced to use a specific carrier that someone decided for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Exactly, which makes the "you can’t buy from a carrier in the US or you’ll often get a special version that" invalid, since its locked bootloader whether or not you get it from a carrier permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Even the non-carrier variants in the US, misleadingly called "International variants" despite of being regional to the US, have locked bootloader. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neblem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yuck, TIL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yuck indeed. People tried many ways to get around it, back when I was still using an US variant Samsung Note 9, people went as far as using a leaked engineering/preproduction ROM, which can be flashed using Samsung's official tool because it does have the correct key for the locked bootloader to accept, being built and compiled by Samsung, and because it's an engineering ROM it would give you root and everything despite of the bootloader still being locked. But it was an exceptionally rare leak, and it was only meant for preproduction for a reason, it is very VERY unstable and not exactly usable for a daily driver lol So happy I am leaving all that BS from Samsung behind with my current Sony Xperia 1 VI which is bootloader-unlocked and rooted and deeply modded and truly my own device lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlocking_Consumer_Choice_and_Wireless_Competition_Act permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago* That's Carrier Unlocking, not Bootloader Unlocking. permalink fedilink source parent [+] artyom@piefed.social -7 points 1 year ago Did you have a question? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Yeah they might come locked, but the owner needs to be able to remove that lock if they want to. I can't remember owning an Android device it wasn't possible on. What do you mean just pixel and galaxy allow it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] LostXOR@fedia.io 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I think computers are gonna be next on the chopping block. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago It is moving that way for sure. But PC gamer is kicking still... Despite these gpu prices permalink fedilink source parent
[+] LostXOR@fedia.io 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I think computers are gonna be next on the chopping block. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago It is moving that way for sure. But PC gamer is kicking still... Despite these gpu prices permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I think computers are gonna be next on the chopping block. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago It is moving that way for sure. But PC gamer is kicking still... Despite these gpu prices permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 4 points 1 year ago It is moving that way for sure. But PC gamer is kicking still... Despite these gpu prices permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neblem@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) And even when it comes to Galaxies, you can't buy from a carrier in the US or you'll often get a special version that, you guessed right, has a locked bootloader. (Two phones now, never again). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I bought unlocked (no carrier) phones from samsung's website and got locked bootloaders. I'm in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) that probably only means that its carrier unlocked, so that you are not forced to use a specific carrier that someone decided for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Exactly, which makes the "you can’t buy from a carrier in the US or you’ll often get a special version that" invalid, since its locked bootloader whether or not you get it from a carrier permalink fedilink source parent [–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Even the non-carrier variants in the US, misleadingly called "International variants" despite of being regional to the US, have locked bootloader. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neblem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yuck, TIL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yuck indeed. People tried many ways to get around it, back when I was still using an US variant Samsung Note 9, people went as far as using a leaked engineering/preproduction ROM, which can be flashed using Samsung's official tool because it does have the correct key for the locked bootloader to accept, being built and compiled by Samsung, and because it's an engineering ROM it would give you root and everything despite of the bootloader still being locked. But it was an exceptionally rare leak, and it was only meant for preproduction for a reason, it is very VERY unstable and not exactly usable for a daily driver lol So happy I am leaving all that BS from Samsung behind with my current Sony Xperia 1 VI which is bootloader-unlocked and rooted and deeply modded and truly my own device lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I bought unlocked (no carrier) phones from samsung's website and got locked bootloaders. I'm in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) that probably only means that its carrier unlocked, so that you are not forced to use a specific carrier that someone decided for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Exactly, which makes the "you can’t buy from a carrier in the US or you’ll often get a special version that" invalid, since its locked bootloader whether or not you get it from a carrier permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) that probably only means that its carrier unlocked, so that you are not forced to use a specific carrier that someone decided for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Exactly, which makes the "you can’t buy from a carrier in the US or you’ll often get a special version that" invalid, since its locked bootloader whether or not you get it from a carrier permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Exactly, which makes the "you can’t buy from a carrier in the US or you’ll often get a special version that" invalid, since its locked bootloader whether or not you get it from a carrier permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Even the non-carrier variants in the US, misleadingly called "International variants" despite of being regional to the US, have locked bootloader. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neblem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yuck, TIL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yuck indeed. People tried many ways to get around it, back when I was still using an US variant Samsung Note 9, people went as far as using a leaked engineering/preproduction ROM, which can be flashed using Samsung's official tool because it does have the correct key for the locked bootloader to accept, being built and compiled by Samsung, and because it's an engineering ROM it would give you root and everything despite of the bootloader still being locked. But it was an exceptionally rare leak, and it was only meant for preproduction for a reason, it is very VERY unstable and not exactly usable for a daily driver lol So happy I am leaving all that BS from Samsung behind with my current Sony Xperia 1 VI which is bootloader-unlocked and rooted and deeply modded and truly my own device lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neblem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yuck, TIL. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yuck indeed. People tried many ways to get around it, back when I was still using an US variant Samsung Note 9, people went as far as using a leaked engineering/preproduction ROM, which can be flashed using Samsung's official tool because it does have the correct key for the locked bootloader to accept, being built and compiled by Samsung, and because it's an engineering ROM it would give you root and everything despite of the bootloader still being locked. But it was an exceptionally rare leak, and it was only meant for preproduction for a reason, it is very VERY unstable and not exactly usable for a daily driver lol So happy I am leaving all that BS from Samsung behind with my current Sony Xperia 1 VI which is bootloader-unlocked and rooted and deeply modded and truly my own device lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* Yuck indeed. People tried many ways to get around it, back when I was still using an US variant Samsung Note 9, people went as far as using a leaked engineering/preproduction ROM, which can be flashed using Samsung's official tool because it does have the correct key for the locked bootloader to accept, being built and compiled by Samsung, and because it's an engineering ROM it would give you root and everything despite of the bootloader still being locked. But it was an exceptionally rare leak, and it was only meant for preproduction for a reason, it is very VERY unstable and not exactly usable for a daily driver lol So happy I am leaving all that BS from Samsung behind with my current Sony Xperia 1 VI which is bootloader-unlocked and rooted and deeply modded and truly my own device lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlocking_Consumer_Choice_and_Wireless_Competition_Act permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago* That's Carrier Unlocking, not Bootloader Unlocking. permalink fedilink source parent [+] artyom@piefed.social -7 points 1 year ago Did you have a question? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago* That's Carrier Unlocking, not Bootloader Unlocking. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] artyom@piefed.social -7 points 1 year ago Did you have a question? permalink fedilink source parent