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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 88 points 2 years ago (2 children) Win11 exclusive? Welp, guess I'll never use it, then. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've used Vista "exclusive" programs on XP back in those days so I'm kinda curious how exclusive it really is if I could get the installer/files for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Shouldn't be too hard, I expect it to be a single executable stored in C:\Windows\System32 , much like the current mspaint.exe. Copy it over, run, have fun permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago Wouldn’t surprise me if they lock it to the windows store. I hope I’m wrong! permalink fedilink source parent [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -33 points 2 years ago (4 children) Windows 11 is pretty awesome though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 67 points 2 years ago (2 children) Once you remove all the tracking and ads, which were already fucking intolerable in 10 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 years ago 10 That's where you lost credibility. Windows 7 was their last non-tracking OS. permalink fedilink source parent [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -24 points 2 years ago (3 children) 1 minute during setup is not exactly a sacrifice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 30 points 2 years ago (1 child) It doesn't stop all tracking, a lot of it still happens in the background, only "without identification". If you thought otherwise, I have this pristine Eiffel Tower for sale. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -36 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not at all concerned about them collecting random useless data that will happen their own effectiveness permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imagine thinking in 2023 that there's still such a thing as 'useless data' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -2 points 2 years ago What's the useful part permalink fedilink source parent [–] ex0dus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not 1 minute, you have to be technically savvy and run scripts from GitHub permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -30 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it's just a title list that's presented to you on the first time startup wizard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Soundhole@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -15 points 2 years ago Oh Jesus her we go permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It shows where Microsoft's mind is at. And it won't stop here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -31 points 2 years ago (2 children) God forbid they make money on a product they have given away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Given away? Windows is a paid product. And there are other (free!) operating systems that are not driven by profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -23 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've never paid for it. Most Windows 11 users have not paid for it. You can buy a license but they also gave it away to effectively everyone and anyone who wants to can run it without buying it so long as you don't mind the "activate more" watermark and less appearance options permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago* (1 child) ...having a demo version of windows does not count as "having it". It's a paid product. Windows Home costs 139$. And if you bought a laptop or pre-built PC with windows on it, you have already paid for the license as part of the price. And since most people buy pre-built PCs, or laptops, most people thus do pay for the windows license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) So people having the ability to use it and cover week their needs without having to pay money to Microsoft for Windows 11 then that means Microsoft needs to recoup those costs somehow. I know you want to move those goal post but the reality is still what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like you didn't read my reply In addition, the paid versions still track you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago They gather some kind of data, they aren't tracking a specific person permalink fedilink source parent [–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) you're either naive or you're working for microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago Good one permalink fedilink source parent [–] ares35@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) most users (outside of a few countries) have paid for windows. via oem or volume channels, as that's where the vast majority of users source their windows from. oem pc sales or volume licenses. whether the original was 7, 8, 10 or 11. at the end of the day, a legit activated license for windows 11 is, or was born from, a paid license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago More than likely they didn't buy a Windows 11 license. It's far more likely they bought a Windows 10, 8 or whatever the hell license from previous versions. Only a small percentage will have bought 11 permalink fedilink source parent [–] HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago They make their real money on Azure iirc. And they've recently had a security leak of about 38 TB of data. Nice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] otter@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's still missing a handful of features from Windows10, which might keep some people from upgrading permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah that and on my custom built pc that runs awesomely windows 11 poo poos some of my hardware and refuses to take up residence all together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm running Windows 11 on Chromebooks without issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I can rerun Windows 11 on a machine without actual Windows support I'm sure your issue is not going to be on the fault of Microsoft permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Any operating system can run on anything with an x86 CPU. That's not what's insane, it's the fact that it's gonna be unbearably slow permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -11 points 2 years ago It's not slow though, it's snappy and fast permalink fedilink source parent [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'll bite, what features are missing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ungrouped task bar buttons, I like seeing what's running on my task bar at a glance. And I don't like having it shrunk down to just an icon either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can ungroup them. it's under personalization > taskbar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, last I heard, it was in the Insider Channel previews. Guess it's live now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ares35@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) i just did an install of 11 here on a test machine. specifically went looking for that option. didn't see it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago https://www.androidauthority.com/ungroup-icons-taskbar-windows-11-3149488/#2 permalink fedilink source parent [–] omicron@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows 11 is a much better experience for developers than Windows 10. I see a lot of people who just hate on it for no real reason other than it's different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheyKeepOnRising@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* I'm a dev and I hate Win11. I could list dozens of reasons why, but one that pisses me off daily is that they removed keyboard shortcuts from task manager for no goddamn reason. Alt+E is the shortcut to end process on every other Windows OS except Win11 because it was made with malicious incompetence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago Eh, I don't hate Windows (unlike a lot in the Fediverse), but I wouldn't say Win11 is awesome. It probably just works. From what I see it's just a mildly-improved 10, which is nice, but missing a few things (no grouped task bar button option in my case), which is why I'm holding out for now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've used Vista "exclusive" programs on XP back in those days so I'm kinda curious how exclusive it really is if I could get the installer/files for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Shouldn't be too hard, I expect it to be a single executable stored in C:\Windows\System32 , much like the current mspaint.exe. Copy it over, run, have fun permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago Wouldn’t surprise me if they lock it to the windows store. I hope I’m wrong! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Shouldn't be too hard, I expect it to be a single executable stored in C:\Windows\System32 , much like the current mspaint.exe. Copy it over, run, have fun permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago Wouldn’t surprise me if they lock it to the windows store. I hope I’m wrong! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago Wouldn’t surprise me if they lock it to the windows store. I hope I’m wrong! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -33 points 2 years ago (4 children) Windows 11 is pretty awesome though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 67 points 2 years ago (2 children) Once you remove all the tracking and ads, which were already fucking intolerable in 10 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 years ago 10 That's where you lost credibility. Windows 7 was their last non-tracking OS. permalink fedilink source parent [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -24 points 2 years ago (3 children) 1 minute during setup is not exactly a sacrifice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 30 points 2 years ago (1 child) It doesn't stop all tracking, a lot of it still happens in the background, only "without identification". If you thought otherwise, I have this pristine Eiffel Tower for sale. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -36 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not at all concerned about them collecting random useless data that will happen their own effectiveness permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imagine thinking in 2023 that there's still such a thing as 'useless data' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -2 points 2 years ago What's the useful part permalink fedilink source parent [–] ex0dus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not 1 minute, you have to be technically savvy and run scripts from GitHub permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -30 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it's just a title list that's presented to you on the first time startup wizard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Soundhole@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -15 points 2 years ago Oh Jesus her we go permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It shows where Microsoft's mind is at. And it won't stop here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -31 points 2 years ago (2 children) God forbid they make money on a product they have given away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Given away? Windows is a paid product. And there are other (free!) operating systems that are not driven by profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -23 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've never paid for it. Most Windows 11 users have not paid for it. You can buy a license but they also gave it away to effectively everyone and anyone who wants to can run it without buying it so long as you don't mind the "activate more" watermark and less appearance options permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago* (1 child) ...having a demo version of windows does not count as "having it". It's a paid product. Windows Home costs 139$. And if you bought a laptop or pre-built PC with windows on it, you have already paid for the license as part of the price. And since most people buy pre-built PCs, or laptops, most people thus do pay for the windows license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) So people having the ability to use it and cover week their needs without having to pay money to Microsoft for Windows 11 then that means Microsoft needs to recoup those costs somehow. I know you want to move those goal post but the reality is still what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like you didn't read my reply In addition, the paid versions still track you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago They gather some kind of data, they aren't tracking a specific person permalink fedilink source parent [–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) you're either naive or you're working for microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago Good one permalink fedilink source parent [–] ares35@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) most users (outside of a few countries) have paid for windows. via oem or volume channels, as that's where the vast majority of users source their windows from. oem pc sales or volume licenses. whether the original was 7, 8, 10 or 11. at the end of the day, a legit activated license for windows 11 is, or was born from, a paid license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago More than likely they didn't buy a Windows 11 license. It's far more likely they bought a Windows 10, 8 or whatever the hell license from previous versions. Only a small percentage will have bought 11 permalink fedilink source parent [–] HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago They make their real money on Azure iirc. And they've recently had a security leak of about 38 TB of data. Nice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] otter@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's still missing a handful of features from Windows10, which might keep some people from upgrading permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah that and on my custom built pc that runs awesomely windows 11 poo poos some of my hardware and refuses to take up residence all together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm running Windows 11 on Chromebooks without issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I can rerun Windows 11 on a machine without actual Windows support I'm sure your issue is not going to be on the fault of Microsoft permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Any operating system can run on anything with an x86 CPU. That's not what's insane, it's the fact that it's gonna be unbearably slow permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -11 points 2 years ago It's not slow though, it's snappy and fast permalink fedilink source parent [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'll bite, what features are missing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ungrouped task bar buttons, I like seeing what's running on my task bar at a glance. And I don't like having it shrunk down to just an icon either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can ungroup them. it's under personalization > taskbar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, last I heard, it was in the Insider Channel previews. Guess it's live now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ares35@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) i just did an install of 11 here on a test machine. specifically went looking for that option. didn't see it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago https://www.androidauthority.com/ungroup-icons-taskbar-windows-11-3149488/#2 permalink fedilink source parent [–] omicron@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows 11 is a much better experience for developers than Windows 10. I see a lot of people who just hate on it for no real reason other than it's different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheyKeepOnRising@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* I'm a dev and I hate Win11. I could list dozens of reasons why, but one that pisses me off daily is that they removed keyboard shortcuts from task manager for no goddamn reason. Alt+E is the shortcut to end process on every other Windows OS except Win11 because it was made with malicious incompetence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago Eh, I don't hate Windows (unlike a lot in the Fediverse), but I wouldn't say Win11 is awesome. It probably just works. From what I see it's just a mildly-improved 10, which is nice, but missing a few things (no grouped task bar button option in my case), which is why I'm holding out for now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 67 points 2 years ago (2 children) Once you remove all the tracking and ads, which were already fucking intolerable in 10 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 years ago 10 That's where you lost credibility. Windows 7 was their last non-tracking OS. permalink fedilink source parent [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -24 points 2 years ago (3 children) 1 minute during setup is not exactly a sacrifice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 30 points 2 years ago (1 child) It doesn't stop all tracking, a lot of it still happens in the background, only "without identification". If you thought otherwise, I have this pristine Eiffel Tower for sale. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -36 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not at all concerned about them collecting random useless data that will happen their own effectiveness permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imagine thinking in 2023 that there's still such a thing as 'useless data' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -2 points 2 years ago What's the useful part permalink fedilink source parent [–] ex0dus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not 1 minute, you have to be technically savvy and run scripts from GitHub permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -30 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it's just a title list that's presented to you on the first time startup wizard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Soundhole@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -15 points 2 years ago Oh Jesus her we go permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It shows where Microsoft's mind is at. And it won't stop here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -31 points 2 years ago (2 children) God forbid they make money on a product they have given away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Given away? Windows is a paid product. And there are other (free!) operating systems that are not driven by profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -23 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've never paid for it. Most Windows 11 users have not paid for it. You can buy a license but they also gave it away to effectively everyone and anyone who wants to can run it without buying it so long as you don't mind the "activate more" watermark and less appearance options permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago* (1 child) ...having a demo version of windows does not count as "having it". It's a paid product. Windows Home costs 139$. And if you bought a laptop or pre-built PC with windows on it, you have already paid for the license as part of the price. And since most people buy pre-built PCs, or laptops, most people thus do pay for the windows license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) So people having the ability to use it and cover week their needs without having to pay money to Microsoft for Windows 11 then that means Microsoft needs to recoup those costs somehow. I know you want to move those goal post but the reality is still what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like you didn't read my reply In addition, the paid versions still track you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago They gather some kind of data, they aren't tracking a specific person permalink fedilink source parent [–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) you're either naive or you're working for microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago Good one permalink fedilink source parent [–] ares35@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) most users (outside of a few countries) have paid for windows. via oem or volume channels, as that's where the vast majority of users source their windows from. oem pc sales or volume licenses. whether the original was 7, 8, 10 or 11. at the end of the day, a legit activated license for windows 11 is, or was born from, a paid license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago More than likely they didn't buy a Windows 11 license. It's far more likely they bought a Windows 10, 8 or whatever the hell license from previous versions. Only a small percentage will have bought 11 permalink fedilink source parent [–] HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago They make their real money on Azure iirc. And they've recently had a security leak of about 38 TB of data. Nice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 years ago 10 That's where you lost credibility. Windows 7 was their last non-tracking OS. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -24 points 2 years ago (3 children) 1 minute during setup is not exactly a sacrifice permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 30 points 2 years ago (1 child) It doesn't stop all tracking, a lot of it still happens in the background, only "without identification". If you thought otherwise, I have this pristine Eiffel Tower for sale. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -36 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not at all concerned about them collecting random useless data that will happen their own effectiveness permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imagine thinking in 2023 that there's still such a thing as 'useless data' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -2 points 2 years ago What's the useful part permalink fedilink source parent [–] ex0dus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not 1 minute, you have to be technically savvy and run scripts from GitHub permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -30 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it's just a title list that's presented to you on the first time startup wizard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Soundhole@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -15 points 2 years ago Oh Jesus her we go permalink fedilink source parent [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It shows where Microsoft's mind is at. And it won't stop here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -31 points 2 years ago (2 children) God forbid they make money on a product they have given away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Given away? Windows is a paid product. And there are other (free!) operating systems that are not driven by profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -23 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've never paid for it. Most Windows 11 users have not paid for it. You can buy a license but they also gave it away to effectively everyone and anyone who wants to can run it without buying it so long as you don't mind the "activate more" watermark and less appearance options permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago* (1 child) ...having a demo version of windows does not count as "having it". It's a paid product. Windows Home costs 139$. And if you bought a laptop or pre-built PC with windows on it, you have already paid for the license as part of the price. And since most people buy pre-built PCs, or laptops, most people thus do pay for the windows license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) So people having the ability to use it and cover week their needs without having to pay money to Microsoft for Windows 11 then that means Microsoft needs to recoup those costs somehow. I know you want to move those goal post but the reality is still what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like you didn't read my reply In addition, the paid versions still track you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago They gather some kind of data, they aren't tracking a specific person permalink fedilink source parent [–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) you're either naive or you're working for microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago Good one permalink fedilink source parent [–] ares35@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) most users (outside of a few countries) have paid for windows. via oem or volume channels, as that's where the vast majority of users source their windows from. oem pc sales or volume licenses. whether the original was 7, 8, 10 or 11. at the end of the day, a legit activated license for windows 11 is, or was born from, a paid license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago More than likely they didn't buy a Windows 11 license. It's far more likely they bought a Windows 10, 8 or whatever the hell license from previous versions. Only a small percentage will have bought 11 permalink fedilink source parent [–] HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago They make their real money on Azure iirc. And they've recently had a security leak of about 38 TB of data. Nice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 30 points 2 years ago (1 child) It doesn't stop all tracking, a lot of it still happens in the background, only "without identification". If you thought otherwise, I have this pristine Eiffel Tower for sale. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -36 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not at all concerned about them collecting random useless data that will happen their own effectiveness permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imagine thinking in 2023 that there's still such a thing as 'useless data' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -2 points 2 years ago What's the useful part permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -36 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not at all concerned about them collecting random useless data that will happen their own effectiveness permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imagine thinking in 2023 that there's still such a thing as 'useless data' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -2 points 2 years ago What's the useful part permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imagine thinking in 2023 that there's still such a thing as 'useless data' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -2 points 2 years ago What's the useful part permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -2 points 2 years ago What's the useful part permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ex0dus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's not 1 minute, you have to be technically savvy and run scripts from GitHub permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -30 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it's just a title list that's presented to you on the first time startup wizard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Soundhole@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -15 points 2 years ago Oh Jesus her we go permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -30 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it's just a title list that's presented to you on the first time startup wizard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Soundhole@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -15 points 2 years ago Oh Jesus her we go permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Soundhole@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -15 points 2 years ago Oh Jesus her we go permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -15 points 2 years ago Oh Jesus her we go permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It shows where Microsoft's mind is at. And it won't stop here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -31 points 2 years ago (2 children) God forbid they make money on a product they have given away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Given away? Windows is a paid product. And there are other (free!) operating systems that are not driven by profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -23 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've never paid for it. Most Windows 11 users have not paid for it. You can buy a license but they also gave it away to effectively everyone and anyone who wants to can run it without buying it so long as you don't mind the "activate more" watermark and less appearance options permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago* (1 child) ...having a demo version of windows does not count as "having it". It's a paid product. Windows Home costs 139$. And if you bought a laptop or pre-built PC with windows on it, you have already paid for the license as part of the price. And since most people buy pre-built PCs, or laptops, most people thus do pay for the windows license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) So people having the ability to use it and cover week their needs without having to pay money to Microsoft for Windows 11 then that means Microsoft needs to recoup those costs somehow. I know you want to move those goal post but the reality is still what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like you didn't read my reply In addition, the paid versions still track you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago They gather some kind of data, they aren't tracking a specific person permalink fedilink source parent [–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) you're either naive or you're working for microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago Good one permalink fedilink source parent [–] ares35@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) most users (outside of a few countries) have paid for windows. via oem or volume channels, as that's where the vast majority of users source their windows from. oem pc sales or volume licenses. whether the original was 7, 8, 10 or 11. at the end of the day, a legit activated license for windows 11 is, or was born from, a paid license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago More than likely they didn't buy a Windows 11 license. It's far more likely they bought a Windows 10, 8 or whatever the hell license from previous versions. Only a small percentage will have bought 11 permalink fedilink source parent [–] HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago They make their real money on Azure iirc. And they've recently had a security leak of about 38 TB of data. Nice. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -31 points 2 years ago (2 children) God forbid they make money on a product they have given away permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Given away? Windows is a paid product. And there are other (free!) operating systems that are not driven by profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -23 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've never paid for it. Most Windows 11 users have not paid for it. You can buy a license but they also gave it away to effectively everyone and anyone who wants to can run it without buying it so long as you don't mind the "activate more" watermark and less appearance options permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago* (1 child) ...having a demo version of windows does not count as "having it". It's a paid product. Windows Home costs 139$. And if you bought a laptop or pre-built PC with windows on it, you have already paid for the license as part of the price. And since most people buy pre-built PCs, or laptops, most people thus do pay for the windows license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) So people having the ability to use it and cover week their needs without having to pay money to Microsoft for Windows 11 then that means Microsoft needs to recoup those costs somehow. I know you want to move those goal post but the reality is still what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like you didn't read my reply In addition, the paid versions still track you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago They gather some kind of data, they aren't tracking a specific person permalink fedilink source parent [–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) you're either naive or you're working for microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago Good one permalink fedilink source parent [–] ares35@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) most users (outside of a few countries) have paid for windows. via oem or volume channels, as that's where the vast majority of users source their windows from. oem pc sales or volume licenses. whether the original was 7, 8, 10 or 11. at the end of the day, a legit activated license for windows 11 is, or was born from, a paid license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago More than likely they didn't buy a Windows 11 license. It's far more likely they bought a Windows 10, 8 or whatever the hell license from previous versions. Only a small percentage will have bought 11 permalink fedilink source parent [–] HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago They make their real money on Azure iirc. And they've recently had a security leak of about 38 TB of data. Nice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Given away? Windows is a paid product. And there are other (free!) operating systems that are not driven by profit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -23 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've never paid for it. Most Windows 11 users have not paid for it. You can buy a license but they also gave it away to effectively everyone and anyone who wants to can run it without buying it so long as you don't mind the "activate more" watermark and less appearance options permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago* (1 child) ...having a demo version of windows does not count as "having it". It's a paid product. Windows Home costs 139$. And if you bought a laptop or pre-built PC with windows on it, you have already paid for the license as part of the price. And since most people buy pre-built PCs, or laptops, most people thus do pay for the windows license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) So people having the ability to use it and cover week their needs without having to pay money to Microsoft for Windows 11 then that means Microsoft needs to recoup those costs somehow. I know you want to move those goal post but the reality is still what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like you didn't read my reply In addition, the paid versions still track you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago They gather some kind of data, they aren't tracking a specific person permalink fedilink source parent [–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) you're either naive or you're working for microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago Good one permalink fedilink source parent [–] ares35@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) most users (outside of a few countries) have paid for windows. via oem or volume channels, as that's where the vast majority of users source their windows from. oem pc sales or volume licenses. whether the original was 7, 8, 10 or 11. at the end of the day, a legit activated license for windows 11 is, or was born from, a paid license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago More than likely they didn't buy a Windows 11 license. It's far more likely they bought a Windows 10, 8 or whatever the hell license from previous versions. Only a small percentage will have bought 11 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -23 points 2 years ago (2 children) I've never paid for it. Most Windows 11 users have not paid for it. You can buy a license but they also gave it away to effectively everyone and anyone who wants to can run it without buying it so long as you don't mind the "activate more" watermark and less appearance options permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago* (1 child) ...having a demo version of windows does not count as "having it". It's a paid product. Windows Home costs 139$. And if you bought a laptop or pre-built PC with windows on it, you have already paid for the license as part of the price. And since most people buy pre-built PCs, or laptops, most people thus do pay for the windows license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) So people having the ability to use it and cover week their needs without having to pay money to Microsoft for Windows 11 then that means Microsoft needs to recoup those costs somehow. I know you want to move those goal post but the reality is still what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like you didn't read my reply In addition, the paid versions still track you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago They gather some kind of data, they aren't tracking a specific person permalink fedilink source parent [–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) you're either naive or you're working for microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago Good one permalink fedilink source parent [–] ares35@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) most users (outside of a few countries) have paid for windows. via oem or volume channels, as that's where the vast majority of users source their windows from. oem pc sales or volume licenses. whether the original was 7, 8, 10 or 11. at the end of the day, a legit activated license for windows 11 is, or was born from, a paid license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago More than likely they didn't buy a Windows 11 license. It's far more likely they bought a Windows 10, 8 or whatever the hell license from previous versions. Only a small percentage will have bought 11 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago* (1 child) ...having a demo version of windows does not count as "having it". It's a paid product. Windows Home costs 139$. And if you bought a laptop or pre-built PC with windows on it, you have already paid for the license as part of the price. And since most people buy pre-built PCs, or laptops, most people thus do pay for the windows license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) So people having the ability to use it and cover week their needs without having to pay money to Microsoft for Windows 11 then that means Microsoft needs to recoup those costs somehow. I know you want to move those goal post but the reality is still what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like you didn't read my reply In addition, the paid versions still track you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago They gather some kind of data, they aren't tracking a specific person permalink fedilink source parent [–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) you're either naive or you're working for microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago Good one permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) So people having the ability to use it and cover week their needs without having to pay money to Microsoft for Windows 11 then that means Microsoft needs to recoup those costs somehow. I know you want to move those goal post but the reality is still what it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like you didn't read my reply In addition, the paid versions still track you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago They gather some kind of data, they aren't tracking a specific person permalink fedilink source parent [–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) you're either naive or you're working for microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago Good one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I feel like you didn't read my reply In addition, the paid versions still track you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago They gather some kind of data, they aren't tracking a specific person permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago They gather some kind of data, they aren't tracking a specific person permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) you're either naive or you're working for microsoft. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago Good one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ares35@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) most users (outside of a few countries) have paid for windows. via oem or volume channels, as that's where the vast majority of users source their windows from. oem pc sales or volume licenses. whether the original was 7, 8, 10 or 11. at the end of the day, a legit activated license for windows 11 is, or was born from, a paid license. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago More than likely they didn't buy a Windows 11 license. It's far more likely they bought a Windows 10, 8 or whatever the hell license from previous versions. Only a small percentage will have bought 11 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 1 point 2 years ago More than likely they didn't buy a Windows 11 license. It's far more likely they bought a Windows 10, 8 or whatever the hell license from previous versions. Only a small percentage will have bought 11 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago They make their real money on Azure iirc. And they've recently had a security leak of about 38 TB of data. Nice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] otter@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's still missing a handful of features from Windows10, which might keep some people from upgrading permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah that and on my custom built pc that runs awesomely windows 11 poo poos some of my hardware and refuses to take up residence all together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm running Windows 11 on Chromebooks without issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I can rerun Windows 11 on a machine without actual Windows support I'm sure your issue is not going to be on the fault of Microsoft permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Any operating system can run on anything with an x86 CPU. That's not what's insane, it's the fact that it's gonna be unbearably slow permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -11 points 2 years ago It's not slow though, it's snappy and fast permalink fedilink source parent [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'll bite, what features are missing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ungrouped task bar buttons, I like seeing what's running on my task bar at a glance. And I don't like having it shrunk down to just an icon either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can ungroup them. it's under personalization > taskbar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, last I heard, it was in the Insider Channel previews. Guess it's live now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ares35@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) i just did an install of 11 here on a test machine. specifically went looking for that option. didn't see it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago https://www.androidauthority.com/ungroup-icons-taskbar-windows-11-3149488/#2 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah that and on my custom built pc that runs awesomely windows 11 poo poos some of my hardware and refuses to take up residence all together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm running Windows 11 on Chromebooks without issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I can rerun Windows 11 on a machine without actual Windows support I'm sure your issue is not going to be on the fault of Microsoft permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Any operating system can run on anything with an x86 CPU. That's not what's insane, it's the fact that it's gonna be unbearably slow permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -11 points 2 years ago It's not slow though, it's snappy and fast permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm running Windows 11 on Chromebooks without issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I can rerun Windows 11 on a machine without actual Windows support I'm sure your issue is not going to be on the fault of Microsoft permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Any operating system can run on anything with an x86 CPU. That's not what's insane, it's the fact that it's gonna be unbearably slow permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -11 points 2 years ago It's not slow though, it's snappy and fast permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I can rerun Windows 11 on a machine without actual Windows support I'm sure your issue is not going to be on the fault of Microsoft permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Any operating system can run on anything with an x86 CPU. That's not what's insane, it's the fact that it's gonna be unbearably slow permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -11 points 2 years ago It's not slow though, it's snappy and fast permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -21 points 2 years ago (1 child) If I can rerun Windows 11 on a machine without actual Windows support I'm sure your issue is not going to be on the fault of Microsoft permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Any operating system can run on anything with an x86 CPU. That's not what's insane, it's the fact that it's gonna be unbearably slow permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -11 points 2 years ago It's not slow though, it's snappy and fast permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Any operating system can run on anything with an x86 CPU. That's not what's insane, it's the fact that it's gonna be unbearably slow permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -11 points 2 years ago It's not slow though, it's snappy and fast permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -11 points 2 years ago It's not slow though, it's snappy and fast permalink fedilink source parent
[+] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'll bite, what features are missing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ungrouped task bar buttons, I like seeing what's running on my task bar at a glance. And I don't like having it shrunk down to just an icon either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can ungroup them. it's under personalization > taskbar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, last I heard, it was in the Insider Channel previews. Guess it's live now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ares35@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) i just did an install of 11 here on a test machine. specifically went looking for that option. didn't see it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago https://www.androidauthority.com/ungroup-icons-taskbar-windows-11-3149488/#2 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ungrouped task bar buttons, I like seeing what's running on my task bar at a glance. And I don't like having it shrunk down to just an icon either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can ungroup them. it's under personalization > taskbar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, last I heard, it was in the Insider Channel previews. Guess it's live now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ares35@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) i just did an install of 11 here on a test machine. specifically went looking for that option. didn't see it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago https://www.androidauthority.com/ungroup-icons-taskbar-windows-11-3149488/#2 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can ungroup them. it's under personalization > taskbar permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HidingCat@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, last I heard, it was in the Insider Channel previews. Guess it's live now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ares35@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) i just did an install of 11 here on a test machine. specifically went looking for that option. didn't see it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago https://www.androidauthority.com/ungroup-icons-taskbar-windows-11-3149488/#2 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah, last I heard, it was in the Insider Channel previews. Guess it's live now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ares35@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) i just did an install of 11 here on a test machine. specifically went looking for that option. didn't see it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago https://www.androidauthority.com/ungroup-icons-taskbar-windows-11-3149488/#2 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ares35@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) i just did an install of 11 here on a test machine. specifically went looking for that option. didn't see it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago https://www.androidauthority.com/ungroup-icons-taskbar-windows-11-3149488/#2 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 2 points 2 years ago https://www.androidauthority.com/ungroup-icons-taskbar-windows-11-3149488/#2 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] omicron@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Windows 11 is a much better experience for developers than Windows 10. I see a lot of people who just hate on it for no real reason other than it's different. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheyKeepOnRising@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* I'm a dev and I hate Win11. I could list dozens of reasons why, but one that pisses me off daily is that they removed keyboard shortcuts from task manager for no goddamn reason. Alt+E is the shortcut to end process on every other Windows OS except Win11 because it was made with malicious incompetence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheyKeepOnRising@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* I'm a dev and I hate Win11. I could list dozens of reasons why, but one that pisses me off daily is that they removed keyboard shortcuts from task manager for no goddamn reason. Alt+E is the shortcut to end process on every other Windows OS except Win11 because it was made with malicious incompetence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago Eh, I don't hate Windows (unlike a lot in the Fediverse), but I wouldn't say Win11 is awesome. It probably just works. From what I see it's just a mildly-improved 10, which is nice, but missing a few things (no grouped task bar button option in my case), which is why I'm holding out for now. permalink fedilink source parent