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[–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Apple would need to supply the data if they had the encryption key right? So can we assume that even Apple cannot see the encrypted data?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Correct, standard iCloud data is accessible with a warrant. But the UK wanted their own backdoor so they have constant access without a warrant.

    But with advanced data protection, Apple can’t provide the data because they don’t have the encryption keys, regardless of a warrant.

    Important to note iMessage is always E2E encrypted though, so iMessages cannot be accessed even with a warrant. Advanced data protection just expands that to all iCloud data

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Okay interesting, thank you for the info.

    Who even uses iMessage these days? Pretty sure I turned it off completely because it was messing with the 5 SMS I send in a year ...

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    iMessage is far more common in the US afaik. Whereas most people elsewhere will use WhatsApp or whatever, nobody in my extended family uses anything but iMessage to communicate

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ah, yeah right, the US is still stuck in the 00s with that (and payment methods).

    But iMessage doesn't work on Android and by default the message will just fail if they have an Android phone and you use iMessage.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That is interesting. In Europe it just switches to text message automatically when sending to people with android.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    In The Netherlands it doesn't and last time I checked we are still part of Europe lol

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Really? Mine defaults to SMS if they don’t receive it as an iMessage message. I can’t recall it ever failing, only a long while back I would get a failure that prompts me to send as SMS - and I’d do it. It’s automatic now.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Not sure how long iMessage has existed, but it never properly worked for me on any iPhone, and neither for my partner. I also helped others change the settings to just default to SMS. By default it doesn't show that you need to send a SMS, and it definitely doesn't retry it, at least not in NL.

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