▲ 679 ▼ 82-year-old grandfather’s family was told he died in ICE custody. Then they learned he’s alive — in a hospital in Guatemala (www.mcall.com) submitted 1 year ago* by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 72 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (5 children) Literally multiple millions of people showed up for nationwide protests just over a month ago permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Donjamos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) And that changed what exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago Absolutely nothing- but shhhh… don’t say that out loud. You’ll upset the people who did fuck all. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Bloomcole@crazypeople.online 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago Quote, Europeans who have fully relied usa support for defense for decades permalink fedilink source parent [–] D_C@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll agree that that was a good thing to see. But that was over a month ago so I'll also ask what has happened since? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I honestly can't measure the exact impact it's had since just this month the Epstein cover up has overshadowed it in terms of how much Trump is struggling to be a president. We didn't even have a month between massive embarrassments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh hey. I can measure it. They shot four high profile democrats that weekend. Two of them died. They racked up a body count while you were congratulating yourself about the cute signs you made to take to the little parade on a Saturday. Good thing there wasn’t any rain or you might have had to cancel the thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) We can have a discussion when you calm down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I remember trying to use “calm down” as a power move when I was in high school. I’m sure it didn’t at all telegraph to everyone in earshot that I was too fragile to face up to the discussion and too terrified to offer anything useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* I'm not going to waste my time reading replies from a stranger that are 90% ad hominem. Be more polite if you want to discuss things with people you don't know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 3abas@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (4 children) And what happened when they didn't get what they wanted? That's right, they mostly moved on to the next shiny distraction, love island or whatever. It's time to revolt, and liberals still think going out with signs once a year is "protest" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Just because you don't see resistance happening on your pretty little television screen doesn't mean there isn't organizing going on in the background. And no, I don't mean protests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago What do you mean? Y'all still bitching Kamala Harris didn't win, is that your organizing? Are you organizing to elect Gavin Newsom next are should we give Biden another shot? Describe the organizing you're doing, because I've found nothing but resistance to any organizing from liberals. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) There isn’t. Burden of proof is on you here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) A dozen or so people are in jail in Texas for allegedly vandalizing an ICE facility and firing on responding police. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago It’s a start permalink fedilink source parent [+] Bloomcole@crazypeople.online 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea you’re right people shouldn’t organize. They should give up instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Yeah that's what I said. "Organize" doesn't mean you find out there's a planned protest in a designated area away from everyone and surrounded by cops to make sure you're contained. That's performative. Organize means building power from the ground up, knocking on doors, meeting in living rooms, cooking meals, making childcare plans, and finding the people in your community who are ready to fight and ready to love. It means strategizing together, planning direct actions that disrupt, not entertain power. It means understanding that the terrain of struggle isn't just symbolic; it's material. Streets, workplaces, campuses, and housing complexes become the front lines. Organizing is about forming bonds that last beyond a single march, about mutual trust and shared risk. It's not just about showing up, it's about staying. It's not a hashtag, it's a commitment. It's not consent to be managed, it's consent to resist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago Don’t you dare question those lazy, servile Americans. They’ll downvote you and call you a keyboard warrior and demand to know WHAT YOU DID in response to their pants-pissing inaction. permalink fedilink source parent [+] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -9 points 1 year ago* (2 children) No Kings was an absolute joke. Great job showing the fascists exactly how little a threat you are. If anything, that weekend’s biggest accomplishment was to embolden the far right. Call it what it is- you did a parade. How many of those millions showed up armed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) k permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s fine, I’d be embarrassed and defensive if I were you, too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago k permalink fedilink source parent [+] Bloomcole@crazypeople.online -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Donjamos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) And that changed what exactly? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago Absolutely nothing- but shhhh… don’t say that out loud. You’ll upset the people who did fuck all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago Absolutely nothing- but shhhh… don’t say that out loud. You’ll upset the people who did fuck all. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Bloomcole@crazypeople.online 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago Quote, Europeans who have fully relied usa support for defense for decades permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago Quote, Europeans who have fully relied usa support for defense for decades permalink fedilink source parent
[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'll agree that that was a good thing to see. But that was over a month ago so I'll also ask what has happened since? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I honestly can't measure the exact impact it's had since just this month the Epstein cover up has overshadowed it in terms of how much Trump is struggling to be a president. We didn't even have a month between massive embarrassments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh hey. I can measure it. They shot four high profile democrats that weekend. Two of them died. They racked up a body count while you were congratulating yourself about the cute signs you made to take to the little parade on a Saturday. Good thing there wasn’t any rain or you might have had to cancel the thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) We can have a discussion when you calm down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I remember trying to use “calm down” as a power move when I was in high school. I’m sure it didn’t at all telegraph to everyone in earshot that I was too fragile to face up to the discussion and too terrified to offer anything useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* I'm not going to waste my time reading replies from a stranger that are 90% ad hominem. Be more polite if you want to discuss things with people you don't know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I honestly can't measure the exact impact it's had since just this month the Epstein cover up has overshadowed it in terms of how much Trump is struggling to be a president. We didn't even have a month between massive embarrassments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh hey. I can measure it. They shot four high profile democrats that weekend. Two of them died. They racked up a body count while you were congratulating yourself about the cute signs you made to take to the little parade on a Saturday. Good thing there wasn’t any rain or you might have had to cancel the thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) We can have a discussion when you calm down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I remember trying to use “calm down” as a power move when I was in high school. I’m sure it didn’t at all telegraph to everyone in earshot that I was too fragile to face up to the discussion and too terrified to offer anything useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* I'm not going to waste my time reading replies from a stranger that are 90% ad hominem. Be more polite if you want to discuss things with people you don't know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) Oh hey. I can measure it. They shot four high profile democrats that weekend. Two of them died. They racked up a body count while you were congratulating yourself about the cute signs you made to take to the little parade on a Saturday. Good thing there wasn’t any rain or you might have had to cancel the thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) We can have a discussion when you calm down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I remember trying to use “calm down” as a power move when I was in high school. I’m sure it didn’t at all telegraph to everyone in earshot that I was too fragile to face up to the discussion and too terrified to offer anything useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* I'm not going to waste my time reading replies from a stranger that are 90% ad hominem. Be more polite if you want to discuss things with people you don't know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) We can have a discussion when you calm down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I remember trying to use “calm down” as a power move when I was in high school. I’m sure it didn’t at all telegraph to everyone in earshot that I was too fragile to face up to the discussion and too terrified to offer anything useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* I'm not going to waste my time reading replies from a stranger that are 90% ad hominem. Be more polite if you want to discuss things with people you don't know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I remember trying to use “calm down” as a power move when I was in high school. I’m sure it didn’t at all telegraph to everyone in earshot that I was too fragile to face up to the discussion and too terrified to offer anything useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* I'm not going to waste my time reading replies from a stranger that are 90% ad hominem. Be more polite if you want to discuss things with people you don't know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* I'm not going to waste my time reading replies from a stranger that are 90% ad hominem. Be more polite if you want to discuss things with people you don't know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 3abas@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (4 children) And what happened when they didn't get what they wanted? That's right, they mostly moved on to the next shiny distraction, love island or whatever. It's time to revolt, and liberals still think going out with signs once a year is "protest" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Just because you don't see resistance happening on your pretty little television screen doesn't mean there isn't organizing going on in the background. And no, I don't mean protests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago What do you mean? Y'all still bitching Kamala Harris didn't win, is that your organizing? Are you organizing to elect Gavin Newsom next are should we give Biden another shot? Describe the organizing you're doing, because I've found nothing but resistance to any organizing from liberals. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) There isn’t. Burden of proof is on you here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) A dozen or so people are in jail in Texas for allegedly vandalizing an ICE facility and firing on responding police. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago It’s a start permalink fedilink source parent [+] Bloomcole@crazypeople.online 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea you’re right people shouldn’t organize. They should give up instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Yeah that's what I said. "Organize" doesn't mean you find out there's a planned protest in a designated area away from everyone and surrounded by cops to make sure you're contained. That's performative. Organize means building power from the ground up, knocking on doors, meeting in living rooms, cooking meals, making childcare plans, and finding the people in your community who are ready to fight and ready to love. It means strategizing together, planning direct actions that disrupt, not entertain power. It means understanding that the terrain of struggle isn't just symbolic; it's material. Streets, workplaces, campuses, and housing complexes become the front lines. Organizing is about forming bonds that last beyond a single march, about mutual trust and shared risk. It's not just about showing up, it's about staying. It's not a hashtag, it's a commitment. It's not consent to be managed, it's consent to resist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago Don’t you dare question those lazy, servile Americans. They’ll downvote you and call you a keyboard warrior and demand to know WHAT YOU DID in response to their pants-pissing inaction. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Just because you don't see resistance happening on your pretty little television screen doesn't mean there isn't organizing going on in the background. And no, I don't mean protests. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago What do you mean? Y'all still bitching Kamala Harris didn't win, is that your organizing? Are you organizing to elect Gavin Newsom next are should we give Biden another shot? Describe the organizing you're doing, because I've found nothing but resistance to any organizing from liberals. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) There isn’t. Burden of proof is on you here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) A dozen or so people are in jail in Texas for allegedly vandalizing an ICE facility and firing on responding police. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago It’s a start permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago What do you mean? Y'all still bitching Kamala Harris didn't win, is that your organizing? Are you organizing to elect Gavin Newsom next are should we give Biden another shot? Describe the organizing you're doing, because I've found nothing but resistance to any organizing from liberals. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) There isn’t. Burden of proof is on you here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) A dozen or so people are in jail in Texas for allegedly vandalizing an ICE facility and firing on responding police. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago It’s a start permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) A dozen or so people are in jail in Texas for allegedly vandalizing an ICE facility and firing on responding police. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago It’s a start permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Bloomcole@crazypeople.online 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Yea you’re right people shouldn’t organize. They should give up instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Yeah that's what I said. "Organize" doesn't mean you find out there's a planned protest in a designated area away from everyone and surrounded by cops to make sure you're contained. That's performative. Organize means building power from the ground up, knocking on doors, meeting in living rooms, cooking meals, making childcare plans, and finding the people in your community who are ready to fight and ready to love. It means strategizing together, planning direct actions that disrupt, not entertain power. It means understanding that the terrain of struggle isn't just symbolic; it's material. Streets, workplaces, campuses, and housing complexes become the front lines. Organizing is about forming bonds that last beyond a single march, about mutual trust and shared risk. It's not just about showing up, it's about staying. It's not a hashtag, it's a commitment. It's not consent to be managed, it's consent to resist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Yeah that's what I said. "Organize" doesn't mean you find out there's a planned protest in a designated area away from everyone and surrounded by cops to make sure you're contained. That's performative. Organize means building power from the ground up, knocking on doors, meeting in living rooms, cooking meals, making childcare plans, and finding the people in your community who are ready to fight and ready to love. It means strategizing together, planning direct actions that disrupt, not entertain power. It means understanding that the terrain of struggle isn't just symbolic; it's material. Streets, workplaces, campuses, and housing complexes become the front lines. Organizing is about forming bonds that last beyond a single march, about mutual trust and shared risk. It's not just about showing up, it's about staying. It's not a hashtag, it's a commitment. It's not consent to be managed, it's consent to resist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago Don’t you dare question those lazy, servile Americans. They’ll downvote you and call you a keyboard warrior and demand to know WHAT YOU DID in response to their pants-pissing inaction. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -9 points 1 year ago* (2 children) No Kings was an absolute joke. Great job showing the fascists exactly how little a threat you are. If anything, that weekend’s biggest accomplishment was to embolden the far right. Call it what it is- you did a parade. How many of those millions showed up armed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) k permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s fine, I’d be embarrassed and defensive if I were you, too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago k permalink fedilink source parent [+] Bloomcole@crazypeople.online -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 child) k permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s fine, I’d be embarrassed and defensive if I were you, too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago k permalink fedilink source parent
[+] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s fine, I’d be embarrassed and defensive if I were you, too permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago k permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Bloomcole@crazypeople.online -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent