▲ 1195 ▼ I've honestly never quite realized up until now how utterly ridiculous it is that people (especially in the US) regularly demand that their food be chauffeured to them. (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by destructdisc@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world 352 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source
[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 72 points 1 year ago (1 child) Well apparently there is considering it’s a popular service. I’m not sure what you mean by this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 40 points 1 year ago (2 children) I doubt we'll ever get data to support this but I suspect most drivers aren't drivers for very long. A few, who are otherwise entirely unemployable, may stick it out. It sounds like a much better deal than it is, I think most people realize that after a relatively short time. My experience with doing deliveries was the only people who had been doing it for a while were a: broke as fuck and 2, exactly the opposite of the type of person you might want handling your food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) I did delivery for long term at one point (doordash). Once you reach their highest rating and learn which orders to take/deny, it is actually quite profitable. Still massively exploitative, of course, but at the time I was making $18 an hour (high for my area), and that's also factoring in breaks and commute. I had a very fuel efficient hybrid which added to the value proposition. I was broke as fuck at the time, but it wasn't the job's fault, more the fact that I only worked exactly the amount of hours I needed each month to pay for my basic necessities and rent, and spent the rest with my friends and fiancee. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How about factoring in vehicle wear, tear, insurance, and depreciation? You said "hybrid" so I'm thinking car, not bicycle. And cars are pretty damn pricy per (especially city) mile, hybrid or not. Also regular insurance policies often don't allow doing such gigs for obvious reasons. I also don't know labor laws in the US, but here those companies got in major trouble because even ignoring the exploitative nature of the gig, they were misclassifying employment as "contract work" which allowed them to avoid paying employment taxes, days off, medical pay, insurance, etc. basically displacing all that burden on the State's social systems. That's the definition of unsustainable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago It isn't sustainable. My car takes significantly less damage per mile than a gas only car, and the gas is nearly negligible compared to the pay when you get consistent 40+ mpg. Even then, it's still not sustainable. I wouldn't recommend the job to anyone, but if someone was desperate or really set on it, then it should really only be a temporary stop-gap to something more sustainable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Yeah I think from the people I've talked to, it's mostly people who do it part time as a way to make a bit of extra cash or like students who otherwise don't have time for a full time job but still need some form of income. There's an episode on a Canadian show called Late Bloomer that tells the story of one of those bike food delivery drivers who is an international student and trying to basically survive. Good show, really fucking sad episode. permalink fedilink source parent [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago (1 child) I drove down doordash for a while. Trust me, every driver knows how much they're getting screwed. You'll never be more class-conscious than having 30+ interactions with people as broke as you every day, and seeing every possible angle of fellow working class jobs. You do it for one of several reasons: you want some tiny modicum of control in your life through your schedule, you desperately need the money and it's easy as fuck to get a delivery job, or you started it for one of those reasons or something similar, got good enough to be ahead of the curve, and it's now more appealing than finding something else. The last one was where I was at. I had done the job enough that I was making $18 an hour, well above the average in my area, and despite needing to pay for gas and taxes on a 1099a, it was still more appealing to keep control and flexibility over my life than to do something else. I could take days off whenever I wanted, see friends during the week, and coordinate my schedule with my fiancee easily. You're very aware that you're getting screwed, but you choose the devil you know, as they say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] november@lemmy.vg 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) you desperately need the money and it’s easy as fuck to get a delivery job Ding ding ding. I don't hate myself enough to do Doordash (yet), but I'm too fucking autistic to keep any job other than rideshare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) If you don't have a fuel efficient car, I wouldn't even consider it. If you do, you need to devote a lot of time to it before it becomes at all worth it (100 orders in last 30 days, good ratings, and above 70% order acceptance rate). Once you're there, it's basically as profitable as any other service job, but with the caveat that it's entirely on you and your executive function to work enough (very boring) hours to pay the bills. Edit: also, wear and tear on your car is gonna be worth more than the job in any job where you use your personal car for 100% of the work. I would consider any of these jobs a temporary measure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) also, wear and tear on your car And it should be mentioned that lots of short trips are hard on cars. EVs are probably much better for this, but I would guess that most delivery drivers (who are using their own personal vehicle) aren't rolling around in EVs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago Yep. For this reason, I left my car running when I'd stop, as idling on the hybrid battery was better than needing to cold start the car 50 times a day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago If you don’t have a fuel efficient car, I wouldn’t even consider it. I encountered a guy doing DoorDash in a fucking RAM truck the other day. Just couldn't believe what I was seeing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ch00f@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s popular because the companies that run it are profiting enough to keep doing it. Is this even true? I thought most of these companies were still in the "chuck VC money into the furnace" phase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago I heard the same. But that was a few years ago. There was a popular DoorDash sub on Reddit that covered all of this stuff. So many drivers complaining about shit there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sl00k@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) The actually drivers, however, don't realize how much they're being screwed over. Stop assuming stupidity because a lower monetary class. Everyone realizes and knows this, you can't do anything about it when you're struggling to feed your family and you just need extra money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sl00k@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago There's a reason you assume everyone who's a delivery driver doesn't understand the cruelty of our monetary system. I understand it might not be malicious but you should think on why that assumption is made. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] the_q@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 40 points 1 year ago (2 children) I doubt we'll ever get data to support this but I suspect most drivers aren't drivers for very long. A few, who are otherwise entirely unemployable, may stick it out. It sounds like a much better deal than it is, I think most people realize that after a relatively short time. My experience with doing deliveries was the only people who had been doing it for a while were a: broke as fuck and 2, exactly the opposite of the type of person you might want handling your food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) I did delivery for long term at one point (doordash). Once you reach their highest rating and learn which orders to take/deny, it is actually quite profitable. Still massively exploitative, of course, but at the time I was making $18 an hour (high for my area), and that's also factoring in breaks and commute. I had a very fuel efficient hybrid which added to the value proposition. I was broke as fuck at the time, but it wasn't the job's fault, more the fact that I only worked exactly the amount of hours I needed each month to pay for my basic necessities and rent, and spent the rest with my friends and fiancee. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How about factoring in vehicle wear, tear, insurance, and depreciation? You said "hybrid" so I'm thinking car, not bicycle. And cars are pretty damn pricy per (especially city) mile, hybrid or not. Also regular insurance policies often don't allow doing such gigs for obvious reasons. I also don't know labor laws in the US, but here those companies got in major trouble because even ignoring the exploitative nature of the gig, they were misclassifying employment as "contract work" which allowed them to avoid paying employment taxes, days off, medical pay, insurance, etc. basically displacing all that burden on the State's social systems. That's the definition of unsustainable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago It isn't sustainable. My car takes significantly less damage per mile than a gas only car, and the gas is nearly negligible compared to the pay when you get consistent 40+ mpg. Even then, it's still not sustainable. I wouldn't recommend the job to anyone, but if someone was desperate or really set on it, then it should really only be a temporary stop-gap to something more sustainable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Yeah I think from the people I've talked to, it's mostly people who do it part time as a way to make a bit of extra cash or like students who otherwise don't have time for a full time job but still need some form of income. There's an episode on a Canadian show called Late Bloomer that tells the story of one of those bike food delivery drivers who is an international student and trying to basically survive. Good show, really fucking sad episode. permalink fedilink source parent [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago (1 child) I drove down doordash for a while. Trust me, every driver knows how much they're getting screwed. You'll never be more class-conscious than having 30+ interactions with people as broke as you every day, and seeing every possible angle of fellow working class jobs. You do it for one of several reasons: you want some tiny modicum of control in your life through your schedule, you desperately need the money and it's easy as fuck to get a delivery job, or you started it for one of those reasons or something similar, got good enough to be ahead of the curve, and it's now more appealing than finding something else. The last one was where I was at. I had done the job enough that I was making $18 an hour, well above the average in my area, and despite needing to pay for gas and taxes on a 1099a, it was still more appealing to keep control and flexibility over my life than to do something else. I could take days off whenever I wanted, see friends during the week, and coordinate my schedule with my fiancee easily. You're very aware that you're getting screwed, but you choose the devil you know, as they say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] november@lemmy.vg 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) you desperately need the money and it’s easy as fuck to get a delivery job Ding ding ding. I don't hate myself enough to do Doordash (yet), but I'm too fucking autistic to keep any job other than rideshare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) If you don't have a fuel efficient car, I wouldn't even consider it. If you do, you need to devote a lot of time to it before it becomes at all worth it (100 orders in last 30 days, good ratings, and above 70% order acceptance rate). Once you're there, it's basically as profitable as any other service job, but with the caveat that it's entirely on you and your executive function to work enough (very boring) hours to pay the bills. Edit: also, wear and tear on your car is gonna be worth more than the job in any job where you use your personal car for 100% of the work. I would consider any of these jobs a temporary measure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) also, wear and tear on your car And it should be mentioned that lots of short trips are hard on cars. EVs are probably much better for this, but I would guess that most delivery drivers (who are using their own personal vehicle) aren't rolling around in EVs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago Yep. For this reason, I left my car running when I'd stop, as idling on the hybrid battery was better than needing to cold start the car 50 times a day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago If you don’t have a fuel efficient car, I wouldn’t even consider it. I encountered a guy doing DoorDash in a fucking RAM truck the other day. Just couldn't believe what I was seeing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ch00f@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s popular because the companies that run it are profiting enough to keep doing it. Is this even true? I thought most of these companies were still in the "chuck VC money into the furnace" phase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago I heard the same. But that was a few years ago. There was a popular DoorDash sub on Reddit that covered all of this stuff. So many drivers complaining about shit there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sl00k@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) The actually drivers, however, don't realize how much they're being screwed over. Stop assuming stupidity because a lower monetary class. Everyone realizes and knows this, you can't do anything about it when you're struggling to feed your family and you just need extra money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sl00k@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago There's a reason you assume everyone who's a delivery driver doesn't understand the cruelty of our monetary system. I understand it might not be malicious but you should think on why that assumption is made. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 40 points 1 year ago (2 children) I doubt we'll ever get data to support this but I suspect most drivers aren't drivers for very long. A few, who are otherwise entirely unemployable, may stick it out. It sounds like a much better deal than it is, I think most people realize that after a relatively short time. My experience with doing deliveries was the only people who had been doing it for a while were a: broke as fuck and 2, exactly the opposite of the type of person you might want handling your food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) I did delivery for long term at one point (doordash). Once you reach their highest rating and learn which orders to take/deny, it is actually quite profitable. Still massively exploitative, of course, but at the time I was making $18 an hour (high for my area), and that's also factoring in breaks and commute. I had a very fuel efficient hybrid which added to the value proposition. I was broke as fuck at the time, but it wasn't the job's fault, more the fact that I only worked exactly the amount of hours I needed each month to pay for my basic necessities and rent, and spent the rest with my friends and fiancee. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How about factoring in vehicle wear, tear, insurance, and depreciation? You said "hybrid" so I'm thinking car, not bicycle. And cars are pretty damn pricy per (especially city) mile, hybrid or not. Also regular insurance policies often don't allow doing such gigs for obvious reasons. I also don't know labor laws in the US, but here those companies got in major trouble because even ignoring the exploitative nature of the gig, they were misclassifying employment as "contract work" which allowed them to avoid paying employment taxes, days off, medical pay, insurance, etc. basically displacing all that burden on the State's social systems. That's the definition of unsustainable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago It isn't sustainable. My car takes significantly less damage per mile than a gas only car, and the gas is nearly negligible compared to the pay when you get consistent 40+ mpg. Even then, it's still not sustainable. I wouldn't recommend the job to anyone, but if someone was desperate or really set on it, then it should really only be a temporary stop-gap to something more sustainable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Yeah I think from the people I've talked to, it's mostly people who do it part time as a way to make a bit of extra cash or like students who otherwise don't have time for a full time job but still need some form of income. There's an episode on a Canadian show called Late Bloomer that tells the story of one of those bike food delivery drivers who is an international student and trying to basically survive. Good show, really fucking sad episode. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) I did delivery for long term at one point (doordash). Once you reach their highest rating and learn which orders to take/deny, it is actually quite profitable. Still massively exploitative, of course, but at the time I was making $18 an hour (high for my area), and that's also factoring in breaks and commute. I had a very fuel efficient hybrid which added to the value proposition. I was broke as fuck at the time, but it wasn't the job's fault, more the fact that I only worked exactly the amount of hours I needed each month to pay for my basic necessities and rent, and spent the rest with my friends and fiancee. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How about factoring in vehicle wear, tear, insurance, and depreciation? You said "hybrid" so I'm thinking car, not bicycle. And cars are pretty damn pricy per (especially city) mile, hybrid or not. Also regular insurance policies often don't allow doing such gigs for obvious reasons. I also don't know labor laws in the US, but here those companies got in major trouble because even ignoring the exploitative nature of the gig, they were misclassifying employment as "contract work" which allowed them to avoid paying employment taxes, days off, medical pay, insurance, etc. basically displacing all that burden on the State's social systems. That's the definition of unsustainable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago It isn't sustainable. My car takes significantly less damage per mile than a gas only car, and the gas is nearly negligible compared to the pay when you get consistent 40+ mpg. Even then, it's still not sustainable. I wouldn't recommend the job to anyone, but if someone was desperate or really set on it, then it should really only be a temporary stop-gap to something more sustainable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) How about factoring in vehicle wear, tear, insurance, and depreciation? You said "hybrid" so I'm thinking car, not bicycle. And cars are pretty damn pricy per (especially city) mile, hybrid or not. Also regular insurance policies often don't allow doing such gigs for obvious reasons. I also don't know labor laws in the US, but here those companies got in major trouble because even ignoring the exploitative nature of the gig, they were misclassifying employment as "contract work" which allowed them to avoid paying employment taxes, days off, medical pay, insurance, etc. basically displacing all that burden on the State's social systems. That's the definition of unsustainable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago It isn't sustainable. My car takes significantly less damage per mile than a gas only car, and the gas is nearly negligible compared to the pay when you get consistent 40+ mpg. Even then, it's still not sustainable. I wouldn't recommend the job to anyone, but if someone was desperate or really set on it, then it should really only be a temporary stop-gap to something more sustainable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago It isn't sustainable. My car takes significantly less damage per mile than a gas only car, and the gas is nearly negligible compared to the pay when you get consistent 40+ mpg. Even then, it's still not sustainable. I wouldn't recommend the job to anyone, but if someone was desperate or really set on it, then it should really only be a temporary stop-gap to something more sustainable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Yeah I think from the people I've talked to, it's mostly people who do it part time as a way to make a bit of extra cash or like students who otherwise don't have time for a full time job but still need some form of income. There's an episode on a Canadian show called Late Bloomer that tells the story of one of those bike food delivery drivers who is an international student and trying to basically survive. Good show, really fucking sad episode. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago (1 child) I drove down doordash for a while. Trust me, every driver knows how much they're getting screwed. You'll never be more class-conscious than having 30+ interactions with people as broke as you every day, and seeing every possible angle of fellow working class jobs. You do it for one of several reasons: you want some tiny modicum of control in your life through your schedule, you desperately need the money and it's easy as fuck to get a delivery job, or you started it for one of those reasons or something similar, got good enough to be ahead of the curve, and it's now more appealing than finding something else. The last one was where I was at. I had done the job enough that I was making $18 an hour, well above the average in my area, and despite needing to pay for gas and taxes on a 1099a, it was still more appealing to keep control and flexibility over my life than to do something else. I could take days off whenever I wanted, see friends during the week, and coordinate my schedule with my fiancee easily. You're very aware that you're getting screwed, but you choose the devil you know, as they say. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] november@lemmy.vg 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) you desperately need the money and it’s easy as fuck to get a delivery job Ding ding ding. I don't hate myself enough to do Doordash (yet), but I'm too fucking autistic to keep any job other than rideshare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) If you don't have a fuel efficient car, I wouldn't even consider it. If you do, you need to devote a lot of time to it before it becomes at all worth it (100 orders in last 30 days, good ratings, and above 70% order acceptance rate). Once you're there, it's basically as profitable as any other service job, but with the caveat that it's entirely on you and your executive function to work enough (very boring) hours to pay the bills. Edit: also, wear and tear on your car is gonna be worth more than the job in any job where you use your personal car for 100% of the work. I would consider any of these jobs a temporary measure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) also, wear and tear on your car And it should be mentioned that lots of short trips are hard on cars. EVs are probably much better for this, but I would guess that most delivery drivers (who are using their own personal vehicle) aren't rolling around in EVs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago Yep. For this reason, I left my car running when I'd stop, as idling on the hybrid battery was better than needing to cold start the car 50 times a day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago If you don’t have a fuel efficient car, I wouldn’t even consider it. I encountered a guy doing DoorDash in a fucking RAM truck the other day. Just couldn't believe what I was seeing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] november@lemmy.vg 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) you desperately need the money and it’s easy as fuck to get a delivery job Ding ding ding. I don't hate myself enough to do Doordash (yet), but I'm too fucking autistic to keep any job other than rideshare. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) If you don't have a fuel efficient car, I wouldn't even consider it. If you do, you need to devote a lot of time to it before it becomes at all worth it (100 orders in last 30 days, good ratings, and above 70% order acceptance rate). Once you're there, it's basically as profitable as any other service job, but with the caveat that it's entirely on you and your executive function to work enough (very boring) hours to pay the bills. Edit: also, wear and tear on your car is gonna be worth more than the job in any job where you use your personal car for 100% of the work. I would consider any of these jobs a temporary measure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) also, wear and tear on your car And it should be mentioned that lots of short trips are hard on cars. EVs are probably much better for this, but I would guess that most delivery drivers (who are using their own personal vehicle) aren't rolling around in EVs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago Yep. For this reason, I left my car running when I'd stop, as idling on the hybrid battery was better than needing to cold start the car 50 times a day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago If you don’t have a fuel efficient car, I wouldn’t even consider it. I encountered a guy doing DoorDash in a fucking RAM truck the other day. Just couldn't believe what I was seeing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) If you don't have a fuel efficient car, I wouldn't even consider it. If you do, you need to devote a lot of time to it before it becomes at all worth it (100 orders in last 30 days, good ratings, and above 70% order acceptance rate). Once you're there, it's basically as profitable as any other service job, but with the caveat that it's entirely on you and your executive function to work enough (very boring) hours to pay the bills. Edit: also, wear and tear on your car is gonna be worth more than the job in any job where you use your personal car for 100% of the work. I would consider any of these jobs a temporary measure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) also, wear and tear on your car And it should be mentioned that lots of short trips are hard on cars. EVs are probably much better for this, but I would guess that most delivery drivers (who are using their own personal vehicle) aren't rolling around in EVs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago Yep. For this reason, I left my car running when I'd stop, as idling on the hybrid battery was better than needing to cold start the car 50 times a day. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago If you don’t have a fuel efficient car, I wouldn’t even consider it. I encountered a guy doing DoorDash in a fucking RAM truck the other day. Just couldn't believe what I was seeing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) also, wear and tear on your car And it should be mentioned that lots of short trips are hard on cars. EVs are probably much better for this, but I would guess that most delivery drivers (who are using their own personal vehicle) aren't rolling around in EVs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago Yep. For this reason, I left my car running when I'd stop, as idling on the hybrid battery was better than needing to cold start the car 50 times a day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] erin@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago Yep. For this reason, I left my car running when I'd stop, as idling on the hybrid battery was better than needing to cold start the car 50 times a day. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago If you don’t have a fuel efficient car, I wouldn’t even consider it. I encountered a guy doing DoorDash in a fucking RAM truck the other day. Just couldn't believe what I was seeing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) It’s popular because the companies that run it are profiting enough to keep doing it. Is this even true? I thought most of these companies were still in the "chuck VC money into the furnace" phase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago I heard the same. But that was a few years ago. There was a popular DoorDash sub on Reddit that covered all of this stuff. So many drivers complaining about shit there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago I heard the same. But that was a few years ago. There was a popular DoorDash sub on Reddit that covered all of this stuff. So many drivers complaining about shit there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sl00k@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) The actually drivers, however, don't realize how much they're being screwed over. Stop assuming stupidity because a lower monetary class. Everyone realizes and knows this, you can't do anything about it when you're struggling to feed your family and you just need extra money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] the_q@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sl00k@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago There's a reason you assume everyone who's a delivery driver doesn't understand the cruelty of our monetary system. I understand it might not be malicious but you should think on why that assumption is made. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] the_q@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sl00k@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago There's a reason you assume everyone who's a delivery driver doesn't understand the cruelty of our monetary system. I understand it might not be malicious but you should think on why that assumption is made. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sl00k@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago There's a reason you assume everyone who's a delivery driver doesn't understand the cruelty of our monetary system. I understand it might not be malicious but you should think on why that assumption is made. permalink fedilink source parent
