He made 23.5 million Euros in 2022. This guy is at the head of a Monster of a Corporation that owns: Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroën, Dodge, DS, Fiat, Fiat Professional, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Mopar, Opel, Peugeot, Ram, and Vauxhall.

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[–] 72 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Wow, none of those companies have a reputation for making quality products.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Kinda makes sense that they fit under the same umbrella. It's a large section of what I'd call mediocre car makers. Not the absolute worst, but far from the best.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Who's worse in build quality and reliability than Chrysler, Fiat, and dodge?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Used to be Hyundai / Kia, but they're blowing them out of the water quality, reliability and interior design wise these days.

    No worse place to be than a Dodge interior.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hyundai have been making reliable cars for a very long time though, my mother has a Santa Fe with over 300k km on it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Indeed, I feel like Hyundai / Kia cars either shit the bed really early, or last a really long time like a Toyota. No in-between.

    Case in point, my 2020 Elantra blew its engine at 7,000km. Got it replaced under warranty, doing frequent maintenance on it, going strong at 70,000 km with zero issues. It just now needed brakes!

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Fair point. Most really cheap crap is long gone these days. But I'd rather sit in one of those three than a Land Rover, Ssangyong or Nissan (which has been plagued with horrible reliability issues as of late).

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not true, Peugeot makes excellent pepper mills!

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I test drove an Alfa Romeo Giulia and it was a shambles from beginning to end.

    He pulls the demo car round, and it was out of fuel, had a flat tyre, the engine management light was on, and the oil temp was sky high.

    This was the demo car. The one they use to sell people on the brand.

    Noped right out of there and bought German.

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