▲ 244 ▼ Signs that rhyme (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago by lime_red@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 32 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child) After coming here I can't tell how to say g and z differently. Why are they doing this :( They had perfectly different sounds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago (2 children) Americans used to pronounce Z the same as the rest of the world until someone wrote the ABC song and decided it needed to rhyme with V, and then an entire generation grew up saying it wrong and it stuck. At least that is what I've heard in Canada. It's also why there is a Canadian version of Sesame street where the last verse doesnt rhyme because up until the late 90s our TV censors used to straight up nope things that would cause kids to be confused about how things should be pronounced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) It was Noah Webster, of the dictionary fame, for the same reason as colo[u]r and cent[re/er] - to put a new identity post revolution on American English permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago Looks like it was a combo of both, reading about it further. https://www.rd.com/article/americans-british-pronounce-zee/ Regional dialects at first, but then the dictionary declared it the official pronunciation and shortly after the song was produced, which would have spread the use from being regional and encouraged homogenization permalink fedilink source parent [–] PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Then how can Americans tell the C shed from the Z shed? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago (2 children) Americans used to pronounce Z the same as the rest of the world until someone wrote the ABC song and decided it needed to rhyme with V, and then an entire generation grew up saying it wrong and it stuck. At least that is what I've heard in Canada. It's also why there is a Canadian version of Sesame street where the last verse doesnt rhyme because up until the late 90s our TV censors used to straight up nope things that would cause kids to be confused about how things should be pronounced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) It was Noah Webster, of the dictionary fame, for the same reason as colo[u]r and cent[re/er] - to put a new identity post revolution on American English permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago Looks like it was a combo of both, reading about it further. https://www.rd.com/article/americans-british-pronounce-zee/ Regional dialects at first, but then the dictionary declared it the official pronunciation and shortly after the song was produced, which would have spread the use from being regional and encouraged homogenization permalink fedilink source parent [–] PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Then how can Americans tell the C shed from the Z shed? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) It was Noah Webster, of the dictionary fame, for the same reason as colo[u]r and cent[re/er] - to put a new identity post revolution on American English permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago Looks like it was a combo of both, reading about it further. https://www.rd.com/article/americans-british-pronounce-zee/ Regional dialects at first, but then the dictionary declared it the official pronunciation and shortly after the song was produced, which would have spread the use from being regional and encouraged homogenization permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago Looks like it was a combo of both, reading about it further. https://www.rd.com/article/americans-british-pronounce-zee/ Regional dialects at first, but then the dictionary declared it the official pronunciation and shortly after the song was produced, which would have spread the use from being regional and encouraged homogenization permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Then how can Americans tell the C shed from the Z shed? permalink fedilink source parent