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[–] 139 points 1 year ago (6 children)

His presidency will be remembered not for what he did, which was mostly good, but for what he did not do. His legacy will be viewed similarly to Hoover's. Both were principled men who, when faced with a serious problem, could not find it in themselves to deal with it.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Dear god, Hoover was a monster and a criminal. He is known in particular for how unprincipled he was. From casually violating human rights at a national scale to targeting civil rights leaders, to blackmail and terrorism, he established the playbook that modern totalitarians like Trump continue to abuse today.

    Using Hoover and Biden in the same breath, let alone calling a monster like Hoover “principled” is beyond the pale.

    Edit: Ignore this rant. I was thinking J Edgar Hoover, notorious leader of the BOI/FBI, not former president Herbert Hoover who was absolutely a forgettable milquetoast president like Biden. Though Biden didn’t murder and tear-gas our own unemployed veterans, so he does have that going for him.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Herbert Hoover sucked ass too, they weren't called Hoovervilles because he did such an amazing job of stewardship and not being a racist.

    What's funny is how much accidental overlap there actually is between them. Principled my ass lmao.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Perhaps principled wasn't the best term I could have used. It was meant in terms of their philosophy of the role of government. There's no question that Herbert Hoover prioritized that over helping people.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was so confused until I got to the edit.

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  • [+] -13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    could not find it in themselves to deal with it

    .. without losing their principles. If Biden chose to keep his own principles, I accept that.

    If we defeat evil but become evil doing so, we haven't won.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    oh my god please stop with this loser ass philosophy. you're fighting nazis. there's no place in a democracy for nazis. that should be your number one principle, and if it isn't, fuck your dumbass principles that allow nazis to come to power and wreak havoc with no consequence.

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  • Trump should have been in jail day one. They should have rounded up all the right wing terrorists and put them in gitmo they should have shut down Twitter, Facebook/meta, reddit and tiktok and tracked down and destroyed all the troll farms with drone strikes. They should have taken out putin. They should have done a million other things and they failed us.

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