▲ 39 ▼ Valve's reported profit-per-head from Steam commissions is out there, and at $3.5 million per employee it makes Apple and Facebook look like a lemonade stand (www.pcgamer.com) submitted 1 year ago by Sunshine@lemmy.ca to c/apple@lemmy.zip 9 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub -11 points 1 year ago (4 children) It’s good to have a monopoly on games distribution permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child) Valve doesn’t force you to buy games on their platform like Epic does. You can use GOG and Itch.io instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub -7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Just because there are other distribution channels doesn’t mean that valve doesn’t have that market stitched up. Their profitability is a function of being a monopoly. It isn’t like their client or anything is revolutionary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 22 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I disagree as their client is the most feature rich one available and it’s not Valve’s fault that the competition shoots itself in the foot too often. Show me one example where Valve bought out competitor stores. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 11 points 1 year ago They're monopoly only because all of their competitors fail to capture the audience. You might as well say Water is monopolizing hydration. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago it's isn't really a monopoly, given that there are other companies and platforms, like Epic, Xbox store for windows, GOG... but practically? yhea, it's a monopoly because the are actually a good product. permalink fedilink source parent [–] scratchee@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Agreed they have a monopoly. But given the modern pattern of digital services always racing to the bottom with enshitification, it’s apparent that we are all very fortunate that the game didtribution market is not an efficient market right now. Steam would not survive in a competitive market, they’d be outcompeted by loss leaders running on infinite venture capital which would inevitably start turning the screws to draw profit from their captive audience before eventually collapsing and taking all their games with them. That monopoly is a win for consumers because it is lazy and predictable, it’s a win for game devs because it’s vaguely pleasant to use over a long period which keeps piracy down, and it’s very good for valve, obviously. Monopoly’s are usually bad when you assume you’re the customer, but with modern services we’re generally the product, a fat and happy monopoly is sometimes better than the alternative. This comment is only slightly tongue in cheek. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lumpybag@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago They were the first to market and built it to distribute some of the most popular PC games to ever exist. They are an entrenched market leader who haven’t tried to make steam into something more than what it should be. They do not have a monopoly, windows store, gog, itch, epic, Apple store, android store, battle.net, EA store, Xbox/store cloud, PlayStation store… permalink fedilink source parent [–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago there is some hate here for your comment, but u rite. <3 good to be the king. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child) Valve doesn’t force you to buy games on their platform like Epic does. You can use GOG and Itch.io instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub -7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Just because there are other distribution channels doesn’t mean that valve doesn’t have that market stitched up. Their profitability is a function of being a monopoly. It isn’t like their client or anything is revolutionary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 22 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I disagree as their client is the most feature rich one available and it’s not Valve’s fault that the competition shoots itself in the foot too often. Show me one example where Valve bought out competitor stores. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 11 points 1 year ago They're monopoly only because all of their competitors fail to capture the audience. You might as well say Water is monopolizing hydration. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub -7 points 1 year ago (1 child) Just because there are other distribution channels doesn’t mean that valve doesn’t have that market stitched up. Their profitability is a function of being a monopoly. It isn’t like their client or anything is revolutionary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 22 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I disagree as their client is the most feature rich one available and it’s not Valve’s fault that the competition shoots itself in the foot too often. Show me one example where Valve bought out competitor stores. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 11 points 1 year ago They're monopoly only because all of their competitors fail to capture the audience. You might as well say Water is monopolizing hydration. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 22 points 1 year ago* (1 child) I disagree as their client is the most feature rich one available and it’s not Valve’s fault that the competition shoots itself in the foot too often. Show me one example where Valve bought out competitor stores. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 11 points 1 year ago They're monopoly only because all of their competitors fail to capture the audience. You might as well say Water is monopolizing hydration. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 11 points 1 year ago They're monopoly only because all of their competitors fail to capture the audience. You might as well say Water is monopolizing hydration. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago it's isn't really a monopoly, given that there are other companies and platforms, like Epic, Xbox store for windows, GOG... but practically? yhea, it's a monopoly because the are actually a good product. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scratchee@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Agreed they have a monopoly. But given the modern pattern of digital services always racing to the bottom with enshitification, it’s apparent that we are all very fortunate that the game didtribution market is not an efficient market right now. Steam would not survive in a competitive market, they’d be outcompeted by loss leaders running on infinite venture capital which would inevitably start turning the screws to draw profit from their captive audience before eventually collapsing and taking all their games with them. That monopoly is a win for consumers because it is lazy and predictable, it’s a win for game devs because it’s vaguely pleasant to use over a long period which keeps piracy down, and it’s very good for valve, obviously. Monopoly’s are usually bad when you assume you’re the customer, but with modern services we’re generally the product, a fat and happy monopoly is sometimes better than the alternative. This comment is only slightly tongue in cheek. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lumpybag@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago They were the first to market and built it to distribute some of the most popular PC games to ever exist. They are an entrenched market leader who haven’t tried to make steam into something more than what it should be. They do not have a monopoly, windows store, gog, itch, epic, Apple store, android store, battle.net, EA store, Xbox/store cloud, PlayStation store… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lumpybag@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago They were the first to market and built it to distribute some of the most popular PC games to ever exist. They are an entrenched market leader who haven’t tried to make steam into something more than what it should be. They do not have a monopoly, windows store, gog, itch, epic, Apple store, android store, battle.net, EA store, Xbox/store cloud, PlayStation store… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago there is some hate here for your comment, but u rite. <3 good to be the king. permalink fedilink source parent